[轉錄] 明朝時中國人可以跟洋人平起平坐

雖然中國人口面積都比歐洲洋人多
長但人家有希臘跟羅馬帝國文化
長期以來洋人一直是贏過中國
就算是宋朝也是跟東羅馬帝國（拜占庭）互有勝負
而且當時宋朝常常被異族操翻

但在東羅馬帝國快滅亡時
中國有一段時間可以跟洋人平起平坐
剛好就是明國的時候
難怪金門王跟那些明粉一直捧明國

真沒想到黃種人也有跟洋人抗衡的一天
八卦很多人都是黃皮膚吧
會覺得光榮？

作者: googolplex (googolplex) 看板: Warfare
標題: [問題] 外國認為明朝是15世紀地球上最強大國家?
時間: Sat Aug 21 18:54:01 2021

外國歷史電玩說 明朝是15世紀的地球上最強大國家?

https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Ming

The Great Ming Empire owes its origins to the collapse of the Flag of Yuan
Yuan dynasty from Flag of Mongolia Mongolia and the period of rebellion and
strife that struck China in the mid-14th century. From this age of chaos, theMing emerged as the greatest power in China, eliminating their Han rivals andpushing the descendants of Kublai Khan back to the Great Wall. After eighty
years of governance, the Ming have firmly established themselves as the
preeminent power in East Asia.

Even though Ming continues to prosper, its international presence has flaggedsince the end of Zheng He's voyages, and new realms have posed fresh
challenges to the empire. In the divided north, nomads have begun to coalesceunder the leadership of the Flag of Oirat Oirat warlord Esen, who aspires to
become the new Great Khan of all the Mongols. Ming diplomacy at least
prevented a similar movement from happening among the Jurchen tribes to the
northeast, where Imperial policy has encouraged infighting among the nomads.
While the fractious and distracted Jurchens are unlikely to pose a threat anytime soon, Esen's Oirats may prove to be a very formidable foe indeed.

Ming's relations in the south are somewhat better. Flag of Dai Viet Dai Viet
freed itself from Ming domination only two decades prior, and still remains
wary of its Chinese neighbor to the north. Other powers in the region have a
more positive opinion of Ming, but mountains and jungles mean that Ming
receives little more than token tributes from the southern kingdoms.

Ming's relations are strongest with the Joseon dynasty of Flag of Korea
Korea. Both Ming and the Joseon dynasty emerged from the ashes of the Great
Yuan, and thanks to their common adherence to Confucian philosophy both have
maintained strong bonds ever since.

Not all of Ming's troubles are external; the Mandate of Heaven is a fickle
one, and if the Emperor's authority wavers too much then there are those who
may choose to shun the Ming altogether. China would have to fall far indeed
to reach such dire straits; in the 15th century, the Great Ming Empire is by
far the strongest realm in Asia, and quite possibly on Earth!

In 1444, the Great Powers are:

1.Ming Ming 2.Mamluks Mamluks 3.England England 4.Ottomans Ottomans

5.France France 6.Castile Castile 7.Timurids Timurids 8.Aragon Aragon

翻譯

大明帝國發端於蒙古的元王朝的崩潰，以及14世紀中葉襲擾中國的動亂與紛爭。亂世之中，大明誕生為中華大地上最強大的勢力，消滅他們同為漢人的對手，將忽必烈汗的子孫趕出長城。開國八十年，大明已然穩坐東亞龍頭寶座。

儘管大明依舊繁榮，然而其國際影響在鄭和的遠航結束後便陷入衰退，新生國家也為帝國帶來了嶄新的挑戰。在分裂的北方，遊牧民向渴望成為新蒙古大汗的瓦刺首領也先麾下聚集。先前明朝的外交手段至少阻止東北的女真部族統一在一起，這歸功於明朝煽動遊牧民內鬥的政策。雖然易怒又瘋狂的女真部似乎短期內不太可能成為威脅，也先率領的瓦刺部卻很可能成為強大的敵手。

明朝與南方諸國的關係多少要好一些。大越二十年前才從明朝獨立，並仍對北方的中國鄰居保持著警惕。這一地區的其他國家對明朝的態度友好得多，但遍布該地區的山嶽與叢林意味著明朝不過能從這些南部的王國手中得到一點象徵性的貢品。

明朝與朝鮮的朝鮮王朝關係最為緊密。明與朝鮮王朝都建立於大元的廢墟之上。兩國關係因共同信仰儒家哲學而變得更加緊密。

明朝面臨的麻煩並非都來自外部，天命就是其中易變的一個，如果皇帝的權威搖擺不定，各地豪強便可能會揭竿而起。中國將難免陷入這樣可怕的境地，但在15世紀，大明帝國仍然是東亞乃至地球上最強大的國家。

在公元1444年時，世界的八大列強國為

1.明朝 2.馬穆魯克 3.英格蘭 4.鄂圖曼 5.法蘭西 6.卡斯提亞 7.帖木兒 8.亞拉岡

為何外國人認為中國的明朝在15世紀裡是地球最強大的國家?

外國人有什麼根據敢這麼講說呢?

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※ 編輯: googolplex (126.77.9.150 日本), 08/21/2021 19:14:00

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根據1500年的資料 明朝人均也沒很低 約600 美元

印度約550美元 日本約500美元
※ 編輯: googolplex (126.77.9.150 日本), 08/21/2021 19:25:01

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