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[外電]湖人隊如何能重新簽下破繭而出的 Monk

看板Lakers標題[外電]湖人隊如何能重新簽下破繭而出的 Monk作者
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其實 Monk 的薪資問題王桑前面有發過文
https://www.ptt.cc/Lakers/M.1641378364.A.96A

這篇外電則是湖人有可能留下 Monk 的世界線

https://tinyurl.com/2p8wawba

How the Lakers can afford to re-sign Malik Monk after his breakout season

The Lakers would need some help from Monk to keep the young guard in Los
Angeles

湖人隊如何能重新簽下破繭而出的 Malik Monk

湖人隊需要這位年輕的後衛 Malik Monk 留在洛杉磯

Monk signed only a one-year contract with the Lakers last summer. When a
player becomes a free agent after only one year with a team, that team only
gains Non-Bird Rights on that player. Those rights allow the team to go abovethe cap to re-sign that player, but only to give him a 20 percent raise. Mostplayers are happy to earn a 20 percent raise… but a 20 percent raise on the
minimum is, well, minimal. Monk isn't even making $1.8 million this season.
He's not going to stay in Los Angeles for the roughly $2.15 million those
Non-Bird Rights can get him. Teams are going to offer him several times more.

Monk 去年夏天與湖人隊簽了一年的底薪合約。當一名球員在一支球隊效力一年後成為自由球員時,該球隊只能獲得該球員的非鳥權利。 這允許球隊超過薪資上限重新簽下這名球員,但只能給他20%的加薪。 大多數球員都樂於獲得 20% 的加薪……但最低 20% 的加
薪是~嗯~微不足道的。 Monk 本賽季甚至沒有賺到180萬美元。他不會為了那些非鳥權利可以得到他的大約 215 萬美元而留在洛杉磯。其他球隊將為他提供數倍的報價。

So how can the Lakers retain Monk? In a perfect world, they'd like to get hisfull Bird Rights. When a team has full Bird Rights on a player, they can pay
him anything up to the max to stay with him. It takes three years to build
those rights, though, and keeping Monk in-house that long when he'll receive
more lucrative offers in the process seems relatively unlikely. Fortunately,
there's a possible compromise here.

那麼湖人隊如何才能留住 Monk 呢?完美的預想狀況是湖人想得到他的完整鳥權。當一支球隊對一名球員擁有完整的早鳥權時,他們可以向他支付最高金額的任何薪資以留住球員。不過建立完整鳥權需要三年時間,而且讓 Monk 在球隊待那麼久,這樣他就會在這個過程中收到更有利的薪資報價,這相似乎不太實際,但幸運的是有一個妥協的可能性。

If the Lakers can keep Monk in the building for one more season, they'll gainhis Early Bird Rights, a middle ground between the Non-Bird Rights they'll
have and the full Bird Rights they'd want. Early Bird Rights allow a team to
re-sign a player for 105 percent of the average player salary—the figure
used to determine the non-taxpayer mid-level exception. Such a deal would payMonk something in the neighborhood of $50 million over four years. Perhaps
more if the cap projections are optimistic.

如果湖人隊可以讓 Monk 在湖人裡再待一個賽季,他們將獲得他的早鳥權,這是他們將擁有的非鳥權和他們想要的完整鳥權之間的中間地帶。早鳥權允許球隊以球員平均薪資的
105%重新簽下球員—也就是全額中產。這樣的合約將在四年內讓 Monk 取得5000萬美元的收入,如果薪資上限預測樂觀也許會更多。

That sort of contract is far closer to Monk's true value than the minimum,
but how can the Lakers compel Monk to wait an extra year in Los Angeles to
get the necessary Early Bird Rights? The only feasible answer right now wouldbe the taxpayer mid-level exception. The Lakers could, in theory, sign Monk
to a two-year deal worth roughly $13 million using that exception. The secondseason would include a player-option, giving Monk the freedom to either
opt-out and test free agency (hopefully re-signing with the Lakers using thatEarly Bird Exception), or, if things go poorly next season, opt-in and try
again with the knowledge that he would have Full Bird Rights with the Lakers
after that.

這種合約比底薪更接近 Monk 的真正價值,但湖人隊怎麼能強迫 Monk 在湖人多等一年才能獲得必要的早鳥權呢?目前唯一可行的答案是小中產(6M)。 理論上,湖人隊可以利用小中產與蒙克簽下一份價值約1300萬美元的兩年合約。第二個賽季將包括一個球員選項,讓蒙克可以放棄球員選項進入自由球員市場(希望使用早鳥條款與湖人隊重新簽約),或者如果下賽季情況不理想, Monk 可以撿起選擇球員選項再打一年,因為他知道在那之後他將在湖人隊擁有完整的鳥權。

Is this going to be enough to retain Monk? That's hard to say. Fortunately
for the Lakers, very few teams are going to have meaningful cap space this
offseason. Detroit, San Antonio and Orlando are the three teams likely to
have real space, but all three have invested in multiple young guards over
the past few years. None appear especially likely to pursue Monk. A more
present threat would be some team offering Monk the non-taxpayer mid-level
exception. A bigger group of teams should have access to that exception if
they want it, and taking such an offer could guarantee Monk something like
$45 million over four years.

這足以留住 Monk 嗎?這很難說。對湖人隊來說幸運的是,很少球隊會在這個休賽期擁有有用的的薪資空間。底特律、聖安東尼奧和奧蘭多是可能擁有真正空間的三支球隊,但在過去的幾年裡,這三支球隊都投資了多名年輕後衛。似乎沒有人特別有可能追求 Monk
。 一個更現實的威脅將是其他隊伍向 Monk 提供全額中產。如果他們願意,更多的隊伍應該可以使用全額中產,並且接受這樣的合約可以保證 Monk 在四年內獲得大約4500萬美元。


That's life-changing money, and Monk hasn't gotten a big contract yet. If hispriority this offseason is to maximize earnings above all else, the Lakers
are probably out of luck. If he's happy in Los Angeles and wants to wear the
purple and gold for the long haul, though, he has a path to doing so if he's
patient. It's hardly an unprecedented path either. Bobby Portis took a very
similar route to remain with the Milwaukee Bucks this offseason. Nic Batum
took his Non-Bird 20 percent raise to stay with the Clippers, but like
Portis, he'll have the chance to cash in on an Early Bird deal in the
offseason. As an added bonus, players waiting for Early Bird Rights in this
way have the right to veto trades for a year.

這是會讓 Monk 帶來大量收入的薪水,而 Monk 還沒有得到一份大合約。如果他在休賽期的首要任務是最大化收益高於一切,那麼湖人隊可能就不走運了。不過如果他在洛杉磯過得很開心,並且想長期穿紫金戰袍,那麼如果他有耐心,他就有辦法做到這一點。 這也不是一條無前例的道路。Bobby Portis 採取了非常相似的方式,在這個休賽期留在了密爾沃基公鹿隊。Nic Batum 將他的非鳥加薪20%留在快艇隊,但和 Portis 一樣,他將有機會在休賽期通過早鳥合約。作為額外的獎勵,以這種方式等待早鳥權的球員在一年內有交易否決權。

But if someone offers Monk the full non-taxpayer mid-level exception, the
Lakers will have almost no recourse to match that offer. So long as LeBron
James and Anthony Davis remain on the roster, it would be impractical for
them to operate below the salary cap even if they could trade Russell
Westbrook away and create the necessary space. One long shot that would be
more trouble than it's worth would be to convince Westbrook to opt-out of hiscontract and re-sign a longer-term extension with a lower salary next season.If his cap number dips low enough, the Lakers could potentially create enoughflexibility to use the heftier non-taxpayer mid-level exception themselves
and offer Monk that same deal in the $45 million range right away. This, of
course, would be a bad idea because it would mean committing multiple seasonsto Westbrook.

但如果有人向 Monk 提供全額中產,湖人隊幾乎無計可施。 只要 LeBron James 和
Anthony Davis 留在陣容裡,即使他們可以交易 Russell Westbrook 並創造必要的薪資空間,他們面對薪資上限也動彈不得。 說服 Russell Westbrook 選擇換約並在下個賽季以較低的薪水重新簽下一份更長期的續約,這將比它的價值更麻煩。 如果他的薪資數字夠低,湖人隊可能會創造足夠的薪資空間靈活性來自己使用更重要的全額中產,並立即以4年/4500萬美元的向蒙克提供全額中產。 當然,這不是一個好主意,因為這意味著要讓Westbrook 在湖人待更久。

In the end, that is going to put the ball in Monk's court. If he wants to be
a Laker, there is a way for him to stay put and position himself for a fair
contract down the line. He'd just have to be patient enough to wait out that
extra year in order to get it.

最後這取決於 Monk 真正的想法。 如果他想長留湖人並為為自己安排一份公平的合約。他需要有足夠的耐心等待額外的一年才能實現。

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實際上還是取決於季後自由球員市場狀況
不過現在的NBA對於使用薪資空間有個正在轉變的趨向
就是會將重要薪資部位放在可攻可守的鋒線球員>後場球員
如果要花薪資在後場球員,除了要年輕之外,還要有三分線以及基本的攻守水準
而且 Monk 實際上重簽不需要簽滿4年,他有2-4年長度的選項
這對他來說更有彈性,但最終還是取決於 Monk 與他的經紀人判斷~




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TheoEpstein02/08 22:32其實6M不一定留不住

TheoEpstein02/08 22:33我是這樣認為的,就只有6M但不代表留不住

lon062302/08 22:34我是覺得要打出競爭力,如果還是鳥戰績,當然免談

lon062302/08 22:35可以衝到二輪或西決以上,Monk可能就願意留了

glen02/08 22:36說服方式這取決於現在湖人管理層的腦子 這點才讓人擔憂...

lon062302/08 22:36因為他現在去別隊頂多也10M出頭,但打到奪冠身價就上去

bemjamen12302/08 22:36題外話 塞爾提克的JR是何方神聖?

ken72033102/08 22:37MONK來湖人這邊修好缺點真的不錯

lon062302/08 22:37了,那若湖人很有競爭力,他那麼年輕很可能想拚一次冠軍

TheoEpstein02/08 22:37應該說就是全額中產10M,甚至可能只拿部份8M之類

TheoEpstein02/08 22:38Monk沒有好到值得用薪資空間簽他

lon062302/08 22:38NBA球員有個冠軍加持,身價就有差了

Addressg02/08 22:38看他有多愛湖人,但大部份會想拼大約吧(差太多錢了啦!)

sodistrues02/08 22:39繼續保持好表現 別隊一定搶

lon062302/08 22:40他如果之後冠軍加身衝到15~20M,犧牲一年拿6M也還好

TheoEpstein02/08 22:41他不一定拿到的10M以上,今年有空間的球隊不多

TheoEpstein02/08 22:4110M跟6M其實沒有差很多,表現機會有差

glen02/08 22:41Josh Richardson是熱火選秀培養幾年之後交易到塞爾提克的吧

TheoEpstein02/08 22:42如果是20M跟6M當然留不住,但10M跟6M我覺得有機會

TheoEpstein02/08 22:42後來交易到小牛?

glen02/08 22:42這隻賽隊球迷才知道實際狀況XD

lon062302/08 22:42所以當務之急就是趕快拿龜加首輪換牆,然後衝到前六

lon062302/08 22:4327首輪就能選到Monk嗎?我是覺得還不容易

glen02/08 22:44如果20M那真的很看好 因為這是不錯的年輕鋒線長約的價碼

X41822N02/08 22:44在我湖能跟他競爭位置的都是一年約老將,留下來吧

TheoEpstein02/08 22:44但Monk只有這一季可能被認為是flurk

TheoEpstein02/08 22:45有空間的球隊拿20M去砸Monk我覺得不太可能

ken72033102/08 22:45monk還沒證明自己可以到20M

dickenst3502/08 22:45Monk是在我湖找到了使用說明書,但不覺得會有球隊花1

dickenst3502/08 22:45~2千萬來挖。

ken72033102/08 22:45至少穩定兩季攻守都有價值才有可能

X41822N02/08 22:46覺得monk進攻沒問題,但防守身材是硬傷,這幾場對比季初

X41822N02/08 22:46的防守已經好很多,但應該不至於有球隊會開20m給他吧

ken72033102/08 22:4710M頂多13或是15 除非他變成curry

TheoEpstein02/08 22:47所以6M真的可以試試看,他再一季打得好別隊開20M的

TheoEpstein02/08 22:47機會也更大

lon062302/08 22:47而且Monk跟AD搭配超好,又很年輕

TheoEpstein02/08 22:47拿10M萬一打不好變成薪資包就尷尬了

okamifang02/08 22:48一旦不是拿底薪,就會變成萬用包,Monk應該不是傻的

glen02/08 22:48如果是會談約的球隊 夠厲害的會跟他簽2Y/2400萬 這可攻可守

lon062302/08 22:48AD如果看到我湖連Monk都走了 LBJ退休 他還會想留嗎?

lon062302/08 22:49這樣的湖人比鵜鶘還慘

OsmanGo02/08 22:491+1 13M感覺也不是不可能 其實現在成績跟去年Nunn也差不

OsmanGo02/08 22:49多 Nunn就是簽一樣的合約

Tain0202/08 22:49這時候看龜的4400就覺得頭很痛

TheoEpstein02/08 22:5013M的問題跟12M一樣,需要薪資空間XD

lon062302/08 22:50湖人如果0輪遊 換做我就選2Y/2400萬

OsmanGo02/08 22:50老詹如果走人 那可能直接考慮賣AD重建比較實際

TheoEpstein02/08 22:50湖人可以把小中產全額給他就是了

TheoEpstein02/08 22:50正解,老詹走人的話不是AD留不留,是要用AD換幾支籤

OsmanGo02/08 22:51我是指兩年13m 1+1的合約 內文也有寫

TheoEpstein02/08 22:51喔喔1+1瞭解

TheoEpstein02/08 22:51那就是全額早鳥

lon062302/08 22:51以球員的角度待爛隊別人也會懷疑你的實力

TheoEpstein02/08 22:51

TheoEpstein02/08 22:51全額小中產

LBJKO02/08 22:52JR是先在小獨過水後 被交易到青賽的

OsmanGo02/08 22:52Monk未必能在外面找到全額中產的報價 如果只有7-8m的報

OsmanGo02/08 22:52價 那降一點點留湖人也是很合理

lon062302/08 22:53就像國王隊的球員也會掉價一樣

LBJKO02/08 22:53他是有D沒有外線的後衛 你可以想做Sg 版本的SJ

OsmanGo02/08 22:53Monk現在磨合的好 但他防守的問題還是在

lopopo00102/08 23:43外面球隊一定會給他四年約 別做夢了

TheoEpstein02/08 23:51四年多少講看看XD

TheoEpstein02/08 23:512022年沒有什麼球隊有薪資空間的

sshow090402/09 00:02一定要想辦法留住,湖人的鎂光燈也可以讓他場外收入更

sshow090402/09 00:02高。

sshow090402/09 00:04而且未來跟AD是湖人重要的藍圖

NuRaymond02/09 01:19不相信monk(X)不相信湖人高層的腦(O)

lwei78102/09 04:41要6M 留Monk, Vogel 可能要同捆

lwei78102/09 04:45全額小中產是一定要給 1+1 或 2+1

jjoonnyy02/09 09:12去年的harris/MB這種射手 公道價是1500~2000萬

jjoonnyy02/09 09:14monk今年持續表現 大概會拿到中產以上的薪資

jjoonnyy02/09 09:15但大概是3年4500左右的價格 長約現在很少球隊願意開

rfvtgb02/09 10:17Monk6-3非控衛 加上過往給人少根筋的感覺 一定會被質疑是

rfvtgb02/09 10:17否只是一年行情 所以我也認為他拿到全額中產機會最高 要

rfvtgb02/09 10:17用薪資空間的球隊 太多球員順位在他前面了

rfvtgb02/09 10:19我們大概可以用小中產+保證先發 這大概是我們的極限