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作者:Sam Vecenie

Here’s everything you need to know about Victor Wembanyama, the 19-year-old
French phenom expected to go No. 1 overall in this June’s NBA Draft.

這裡是你對於Victor Wembanyama這名19歲現象級且應該能成為六月NBA選秀狀元的潛力球員所有應該知道的事情。

Background
背景

Wembanyama has long been considered one of the best prospects in his age
group. His father, Felix, was a 6-foot-6 high-level long jumper. His mother,
Elodie, was 6-foot-3 and played basketball and helped teach Victor the game.
He has two siblings, both of whom play basketball, and grew up in the
Parisian suburbs and joined the Nanterre 92 developmental team at a young age.

Wembanyama長期以來都被視為他年齡層最好的潛力之一。他的父親Felix是一名身高6呎6吋的跳遠選手。他的母親Elodie則是一名6呎3吋且會打籃球的母親並在Victor的籃球發展做出貢獻。他還有兩個打籃球的兄弟並一起在巴黎郊區長大且在很小的時候就一起加入了楠泰爾籃球俱樂部的少年隊。

Wembanyama emerged as an elite prospect for NBA teams at the U16 European
Championships in 2019, where he averaged nine points, 10 rebounds and five
blocks per game as a 15-year-old. He continued to ride wave of momentum whileplaying for Nanterre’s developmental Espoirs team and got his first taste of
professional basketball in early 2020 for Nanterre. Then he quickly emerged
as a first-team player for Nanterre in 2020-21, starting 10 games in the
French League and winning the Pro A league’s Best Shot Blocker award as well
as its Rising Star award. That summer, he went to the U19 World Cup as an
underage 17-year-old and dominated again. He averaged 14 points, seven
rebounds and five blocks, putting up a dominant 22-point, eight-rebound,
eight-block game in the championship against the United States team led by
Chet Holmgren, with France losing by just two points. He continued his ascentas a 17-year-old, moving to French power ASVEL and earning starting minutes
both in EuroLeague and French League play. He led the EuroLeague in blocked
shots as a teenager, an absurd accomplishment, and largely held his own and
showcased flashes of elite play mixed with some inefficiency as a young
player exploring the boundaries of his game. He won the French League Best
Young Player award again but lost EuroLeague Rising Star award to Knicks’
pick Rokas Jokubaitis. He decided to leave ASVEL at the end of the season,
signing a contract with Metropolitans 92 in Paris, where he would play for
French national team coach Vincent Collet.

Wembanyama在2019年U16歐冠杯時開始作為一名菁英級別的NBA潛力被注意到。他在那個杯賽作為15歲球員場均9分10籃板5火鍋。他在楠泰爾籃球俱樂部時也沒有停下他的腳步並迅速在2020年初時獲得了他職業球員的初體驗。接下來他迅速在20-21球技成為了楠泰爾籃球俱樂部的一軍。在10場的先發中他獲得了法國甲級聯賽的阻攻王與未來之星。該年夏天,他作為一名不到17的歲球員參加U19世界盃得到了場均14分7籃板5火鍋並再冠軍戰對決由Chet Holmgren領軍的美國隊得到了22分8籃板8火鍋的成績且只輸了2分。他在他17歲的時候繼續向上進步加入了法國強隊ASVEL籃球隊並於歐洲聯賽與法國聯賽都取得先發的位置。他以青少年的身分獲得了歐洲聯賽的阻攻王。從這時候他開始展現一些菁英級別的play以及混雜了一些低效來開發他作為年輕球員的極限。他贏得了法國聯賽最佳年輕球員但是在未來之星獎中敗給了尼克的Rokas Jokubaitis。他在那個賽季結束後決定離開ASVEL隊並與由法國國家隊教練Vincent Collet領軍的巴黎大都會92隊簽約。

Wembanyama exploded in his season with Metropolitans, going from surefire No.1 overall player to truly generational talent due to his improvement in termsof offensive shot creation. The NBA put together a showcase game for
Wembanyama and potential No. 2 overall pick Scoot Henderson in September
2022. Wembanyama left scouts salivating and in awe, scoring 37 points in the
first game and then scoring 36 points and grabbing 11 rebounds in the second.He went on to carry Metropolitans toward the top of the French League and
currently leads the French League in scoring, rebounds and blocks.
Metropolitans is third at the moment behind only EuroLeague powerhouses
Monaco and ASVEL.

Wembanyama於他在大都會時開始爆發並藉由進攻上的進步從唯一狀元變成了真正的改變世代的天賦。NBA替他與可能是榜眼的Scoot Henderson於2022年9月安排了一場表演賽。
Wembanyama的表現令球探們垂涎三尺。他第一場得了37分並在第二場斬獲36分11籃板。接著他更是帶領大都會隊攻頂法國聯賽並同時是法國聯賽的得分王、籃板王與火鍋王。大都會現在是該聯賽的第三名僅次於歐洲聯賽強隊的摩納哥與ASVEL。

It is worth briefly noting that Wembanyama has had a history of injuries. In
December 2020, he suffered a stress fracture in his leg. In November 2021, hebroke a finger that forced him to miss one month. In December 2021, he
suffered a right shoulder blade bone bruise that forced him to miss over a
month. In June 2022, he suffered a muscle injury that forced him to miss the
rest of the French League season. None of these are recurrent, but scouts
have taken notice that he continues to miss time. He has not missed a single
game for Metropolitans in his pre-draft year and is considered to have a veryprofessional personality and demeanor.

Wembanyama的傷病史是一個非常需要被注意的事情。在2020年12月時他有疲勞性骨折;2021年11月時他手指骨折缺席了一個月;2021年12月他右肩脫臼病缺席超過一個月;2022年6月他因肌肉傷勢而整季報銷。以上這些都沒有再復發,然而球探們注意到了他持續的缺席。所以他在今年選秀年為大都會隊完整出賽被認為是一個非常具有職業精神的行為。

Strengths
優勢

Wembanyama has elite length for a center. He stands over 7-foot-4 in shoes
with a near-8-foot wingspan and will be among the longest centers in the NBA
from day one. Beyond that, Wembanyama has a relatively skinny yet
well-proportioned frame that should continue to be able to add weight. He’s
already over 230 pounds and has retained a large amount of the coordination
and athleticism that has made him special as an offensive player. He’s not
an elite run-and-jump athlete, but he’s good and more than anything
possesses terrific hand-eye coordination and fluidity for his size. He gets
off the ground quickly as a jumper, even if his vertical leap likely isn’t
massive. His balance is unlike that of any “super giant” who has entered
the NBA previously.

Wembanyama有著作為中鋒非常出色的身長。他穿鞋身高超過7尺4吋並有著接近8尺的臂展。在他加入NBA時他將會是最長的中鋒。除此之外,Wembanyama有著相對纖細但比例良好的身材所以要在身上增重並不難。雖然他現在已經超過230磅但他仍維持了非常好的協調性與運動能力--這也是讓它作為進攻球員如此特別的原因。他不是精英等級的跑跳運動員,但他有著以他身高而言出色的手眼協調及協調性。他可以從地上快速起跳,即使他跳的並不是非常高。他的平衡性相對任何先前NBA的超級巨人都是獨一無二的。


Wembanyama’s superpower is his ability to defend in the paint. He is the
best shot-blocking prospect to enter the NBA in a long time. He led
EuroLeague in blocked shots as a 17-/18-year-old and blocked twice as many
shots as any player in the French League in 2022-23. He possesses a terrific
sense of timing and positioning and has clearly been taught well. His length
and ability to move changes the geometry of the game both vertically and on
the ground. He pairs this with strong anticipation. He’ll crash down from
the elbows or rotate over from the weak side quickly and can bait potential
shooters to try to go up without realizing how quickly he can cover the
ground. Vertically, he’s enormous, and his length ends up covering the top
of the rim. On the floor in the paint, he swallows up drivers and covers an
enormous amount of ground due to how mobile and balanced he is. Also, he doesn’t really need to elevate to impact shots at the rim, which stops him from
fouling. He averaged just two fouls per game this season and is an impedimentjust by sticking his arms up.

Wembanyama的超能力是他的護框能力。他是近幾年來最好的封阻潛力。他22-23賽季在歐洲聯盟的阻攻數領先任何其他17 18歲的同齡人2倍以上。他展現出出色的抓時機與站位能力且顯然的有受到良好的訓練。他的長度與移動能力改變了球賽無論垂直還是地面的幾何學。他更是伴隨著強大的渴望。他會從肘區或是弱邊衝過來封阻以為他趕不上的對手。垂直面來說他非常巨大,他的長度讓他可以涵蓋籃筐以上的範圍。在籃下的地上,他可以吞噬切入者並依靠他的機動性與平衡感協防非常大的範圍。另外,他並不需要跳很高才能干擾投籃,這也使的他很少犯規。他在本季因為他只需要把手伸直所以一場平均只有2次犯規。

Wembanyama is a strong defender across the court as well. His instincts and
awareness in drop coverage are strong, and he has elite potential there.
Because of his length and understanding of angles, he plays the gap between
the ballhandler and roller well. He can both play in retreat where he cedes
space or more aggressively closer to the level of the screen. He keeps almosteverything in front of him, but when he does get beat, he has terrific
recovery skills due to his length. This causes real hesitancy from
ballhandlers. It’s hard for them to feel comfortable pulling up because of
how capable he is getting out to the perimeter even when he’s dropping to
the foul line. You can also feel this in closeouts, where he can speed up
shooters. Moreover, he plays with a reasonable amount of bend and can slide
to cut off players in space. He’s not the quickest guy in the world, but he
keeps his feet active and uses his length and angles well and plays on
balance.

Wembanyama在籃下以外的地方也是個強力的防守者。他drop時的直覺與專注度非常強大而也有菁英級別的潛力。因為他的長度以及對角度的理解,他可以很好的周旋於持球者與擋拆者之間的空間。他同時可以沉退給對手一些空間也可以激進的靠前防守來限制擋拆。他可以讓幾乎所有東西維持在他的前方,而即使他被穿過去了也可以依靠他的長度快速的回位。他的這些能力造成持球者非常容易猶豫。即使他在罰球線沉退依然可以給外圍的球員很大的壓力。你也可以在他對射手高速的Close Out中感受到這一點。更有甚者,他有不錯的柔軟度來讓他可以穿梭於空間之中。他不是世界上最快的球員,但他的腳隨時保持靈活並好好利用長度角度與他的平衡感。

Offensively, Wembanyama took a significant leap in 2022-23, actualizing the
talent that has existed in scouts’ eyes for a long time. He’s a ridiculous
shot creator for someone this big. The threat is immediate because he’ll
grab and go and pressure the defense off the glass. He’s very good in
transition because of how quickly he covers ground, and his handle is
ridiculously tight for a 7-4 center. He looks like a wing out there with how
he sets up defenders then strings together moves to attack the top foot. He
loves the isolation pull-up and is a big fan of the right-foot jab step into
the left-hand dribble stepback to the left. He developed the ability to hit
side-step pull-ups this year and does it to both his left and his right, and
he can string together multiple moves to separate to get to his stepback as
well. He loves the hesitation crossover into a pull-up and uses his stride
length to really extend out and create feet of separation on stepbacks. He
has counters for days to how defenders attempt to play him. He’ll hit
inside-out dribbles into spinning turnarounds, fake spin-shimmies into
midrange pull-ups, mid-post face-up fadeaways, etc.

進攻面上,Wembanyama在22-23賽季有巨大的飛躍並將他的天賦兌現成能讓球探們興奮的現實。他以他的身高是個荒謬的Shot Creator。這個威脅相當具有立即性因為他可以拿球並將逼迫對手的防守得從禁區拉出來。他因為他的速度而非常擅長快攻,且他的運球作為一名7-4的中鋒來說好到非常荒謬。他可以像一個側翼一般玩弄防守者並串聯各種動作來攻擊對手的前足。他非常愛單打後直接拔起投籃且也喜歡用右腳的刺探步後接左手運球靠左邊的後撤步投籃。他也發展出了可以從左邊右邊都能投進側步拔起跳投的能力。他還能串起數個不同的動作來創造空間並後撤步投籃。他喜歡在遲疑crossover後拔起投籃並用他的長度來延展製造一尺的空間來後撤步。他經常要面對防守者試圖守住他。他會用inside-out運球與轉身、假轉身後中距離拔起投籃抑或是中距離低位後仰跳投等等等。

Wembanyama also is a creative ballhandler when loading into his shot. He has
superb balance and touch combination and made multiple running floaters from
behind the 3-point line earlier this season that I don’t think I’ve ever
seen anyone else attempt. There isn’t really a way to contest him because of
how high his release point is. He does a good job of using it to its utmost
advantage too. He’ll catch and keep the ball high while gathering and doesn’
t need a ball dip to load into the shot, which is important as it refers to
catching-and-shooting and taking advantage of potential mid-post shots. He
also hits shots off movement and made 47 percent of his shots from the field
this season despite taking over two-thirds of them from outside of 5 feet
away from the basket. It’s very easy to imagine him as a primary
end-of-shot-clock option in the NBA. He can always create a reasonable look
and makes an obscene number of contested shots. He made 38 percent of his
shots between 9 and 20 feet, but that’s a strong number given how absurdly
contested these shots were and what the degree of difficulty was in creating
them. He’ll have more space to operate in the NBA.

Wembanyama在有投射能力的同時也是充滿創造力的持球者。他有出色的平衡與投籃手感並時常投進從三分線外開始的拋投,而我也不認為我有見過任何其他人嘗試過。因為他超高的出手點根本沒有人可以干擾他的出手。他也很好的利用了這項優勢。他會接球後將球維持在高點且從未需要將球放下來才能投籃--這對他的接球投射能力與中距離單打能力來說很重要。他也可以在跑動之後投進球--這季即使他有2/3的出手都在5尺外他的命中率有47%的水準。並不難想像他將來在NBBA可以成為讀秒時的終結點選項。他也可以一直製造出合理出手也能製造令人震驚的干擾下投籃。他在9-20尺的區間雖然只有38%的命中率,但考量他大部分都是受干擾的出手以及出手的難度這是個很強力的數字。他在NBA將能有更多的空間來操作這些投籃。

Wembanyama also has real driving capabilities because of how long his stridesare and how much ground he covers. He combines the threat of his pull-up shotwith drives off hesitation dribbles well. He doesn’t have a great first
step, but once he gets defenders leaning, it’s hard for them to stay in
front because he can gather into a shot off a drive from the 3-point line dueto his length. He can do it out of isolations if he gets someone off-balance
or out of spot-ups if a heavy closeout comes due to the respect defenders
give his shot. He’s very similar to a younger Giannis Antetokounmpo in that
way but doesn’t yet have the same level of strength Giannis developed.
Still, Wembanyama does a good job of playing through contact once he gets
that downhill first step. In the NBA, he’ll have even more open driving
lanes due to the spacing of the court, which should allow him to continue to
be impactful as a finishing driver. He can also occasionally post his man andbully him to the rim purely due to his stride length or ability to shoot overthe top. If you try to play him tight and get physical with him, he’ll go up
and under and extend his way to the rim.

Wembanyama也因為他的長度與速度有切入的能力。他綜合了他拔起跳投的能力來使用遲疑運球後再切入。他並沒有好的第一步,但只要他的防守者靠前,他的防守著將會很難阻擋他因為他可以依靠長度從三分線外啟動切入。他也可以在對方因他的投射能力closeout失位或是失去平衡後單打。他看起來就像個年輕板的Giannis Antetokoupo但不具有Giannis的力量。即使如此,Wembanyama非常擅長面對在他踩下第一步後的碰撞。在NBA,他將能有更開闊的空間可以切入,而這應該可以使他變成一個具有影響力的切入終結者。他也偶爾低位單打他的對手並使用他的長度與在對方頭上投射的能力霸凌對手。如果你嘗試施壓或是對他打得更加粗野,他將會做一個假動作後延伸至籃筐投籃。

Unsurprisingly, Wembanyama also is an awesome finisher at the rim. Per
Synergy, he made 73.1 percent at the basket this season and was at 68.3
percent in the half court, a very strong number given that he self-created a
ton of these looks off drives. A lot of his finishes came off putbacks, whereWembanyama averaged about 2.5 points per game, fourth-most in the French
League behind only fellow 7-foot-3 supergiant Youssoupha Fall. He’s a
constant lob threat if he’s in the dunker spot and has good touch with both
hands. He maintains contact balance well as a finisher and has very easy liftas a finisher. He has very high-level potential as a pick-and-roll finisher
due to his balance and hand-eye coordination and poses the pick-and-pop
threat as well. He’s so multi-faceted and versatile as a scorer that it’s
hard to find ways to completely shut him down.

不出意外的,Wembanyama也是個出色的籃下終結者。根據Synergy,他本季在籃下有73.1%的命中率並在半場進攻時依然有68.3%的命中率。這對於一個自行創造切入機會的球員來說是個很強力的數字。他很多終結是補籃--他平均每場依靠補籃得2.5分是法國職籃第4高並輸給了同聯盟的7尺3超級巨人Youssoupha Fall。他在Dunker's Spot也是一個穩定的空接威脅且因為手感左右手都有終結的能力。他做為終結點時依然可以在身體接觸後維持平衡並在高點終結。因為他的平衡感與手眼協調,他也有做為擋拆終結者的高潛力(無論是作為Roller還是Pop)。他在得分上太過多功能且多才多藝所以很難找到方法可以完全阻止他。

Weaknesses
弱點

There are a few, but not many. Wembanyama has a higher center of gravity,
which means he can be moved around a bit more often than you’d expect. He
does have strength and should fill out well physically as he ages, but right
now, he can have some issues getting knocked off his line. That high center
of gravity can sometimes come into play when he’s moving laterally in space.
He can sometimes get out-leveraged and beaten by a guard who gets lower than
he does. He’s excellent in recovery, but those spaces become more and more
open at the next level. He’s great with his angles but will need to keep
improving upon always having the right ones.

他有一些弱點,但不多。Wembanyama在球場上有相較更高的重心,這使他可能被移動的比你預期的更多一點。他雖然有力量也理應可以隨著年紀增長而增加,但現在而言他可能會因為對抗性不足而被驅離原本的位置。他更高的重心有時會影響他在空間中的水平位移。他有時候會被後衛用更低的重心給打敗而失去位置。他有優秀的回位,但這些空間隨著層級升高只會更加的開闊。他雖然擅長利用角度但依然必須要在這方面進步才能穩定在正確的角度。

Wembanyama sometimes struggles to see open passing reads and make plays when
he’s on the move and sometimes gets a bit too focused on scoring as a
driver. He does a great job of drawing defenders and forcing help but doesn’
t always take the best advantage of bending the defense. He sometimes makes
his passing reads in set plays way too obvious. Metropolitans often ran playswhere he was out high and would try to find cutters, but he’d completely
telegraph what he was doing. Anecdotally, more of his turnovers come via the
pass as opposed to ballhandling turnovers. Teams can frustrate him with late
digs and weakside doubles. I would expect teams try to aggressively
double-team him early in his career and force him to learn these passing
reads. He can get a bit too sped up.

Wembanyama有時也因為無法閱讀開放的傳球而掙扎。他在該為隊友製造機會時有時會因為他過度專注在得分與切入而沒看見。他雖然能很好的吸引防守者並強破對手協防但他沒辦法一直最大化這項優勢。他有些傳球也太過顯而易見。大都會經常讓他上到高位並找尋空切的隊友,但他完全無法搞清楚狀況。他的失誤比起他運球更多是傳球造成的。球隊很有可能可讓他陷入陷阱或是弱邊包夾而感到沮喪。我能預見更多球隊會嘗試在他生涯前期更激進的包夾而強制他學習閱讀傳導。這也可以稍微加速他的進步。

Wembanyama’s shooting can also be a bit inconsistent. He goes through spurts
where he just can’t find the bucket. A lot of the percentage issues have to
do with shot selection, as he often ends up taking a ton of absurdly tough
ones that others can’t even create. But it’s worth noting that his numbers
aren’t great. In total, he made 32.5 percent of his jumpers and 32.4 percent
of his catch-and-shoot 3s and only 20.7 percent of his 3s off the bounce. Thehighlights look great, but the results aren’t always there. I don’t think
he engages his lower half enough with good shot prep off the catch right now.Catching-and-shooting often seems like a second option when he gets the ball,so he doesn’t always look ready to fire immediately. He has a tendency to
miss long on his shots, which I think is due to inconsistent rhythm and
engagement of his lower half. He can be a bit stiff.

Wembanyama的投射也有一點不穩定。他有過他就是投不進球的情況。他投籃命中率的問題很大一部分與他的投籃選擇掛勾--而這些很多都是他大量的嘗試超高難度且只有他能做到的投籃。但很重要的一件事是--這些的數字並不好看。他的跳投命中率只有32.5%、接球投籃只有32.4%、運球後的三分甚至只有20.7%。這些嗨賴也許看起來很帥,但結果往往不是那麼一回事。我不認為現在的他上下半身在他接球投籃時有一起發力。接球後投射常常在他接到球之後只是個備用選項所以他不常準備好直接投籃。他沒投進時也有太過用力的傾向。我猜是因為他不穩定的節奏與上下半身不協調所造成的。我認為他有一點僵硬。

All of this is eminently fixable, and there is zero reason not to buy
Wembanyama as a shooter long term. He’ll get stronger in his lower half and
work with a legitimate shooting coach who helps to improve his overall
mechanics. Wembanyama’s touch is so good that he’ll find mechanics that
work for him. But early in his career, you might see some real inconsistency
in terms of the actual result. Because he’s so efficient at the rim and will
be playing with better guards who can find him easier buckets, he should stayabove the median efficiency line even as a rookie. But he might go through
spurts where the shot doesn’t fall.


這些全部都是可以輕易修正的問題,而這完全無法構成Wembanyama無法成為射手的長期原因。他的下半身會越來越強壯;他也可以在接受正常的投籃教練指導後改進他的出手機制。Wembanyama的手感太好了所以你會發現這個機制在他身上居然能行。但在他生涯的前期,你可能會看到一些真正的不穩定性。因為他在籃下終結時在太有效率且也會與更好的後衛合作來讓他取得一些更輕鬆的得分,他作為新秀應該依然可以維持中位數以上的效率。但有時也會經歷一些他就是投不進的情況。

Summary
總結

Wembanyama is the highest-upside prospect to enter the NBA since LeBron
James. There are things that could go wrong here and hold him back from that
type of upside — particularly, if his body breaks down and his durability
becomes a question, or if the passing and playmaking never quite come along
to the levels they need to. But it’s hard to overemphasize how incredible
Wembanyama’s long-term potential is on both ends of the floor.

Wembanyama是在LeBron James之後有著最高天花板的新秀。雖然有些東西可能會造成他沒辦法達到他的天花板--像是如果他的身體承受不住然後耐久力成了問題,或是他的傳球與給隊友製造機會的能力永遠無法達到應有的水準。但我們很難過分強調Wembanyama長期在攻守兩端的潛力有多麼驚人。

He will immediately be the biggest, longest player in the NBA, which allows
him to change the geometry of the court defensively. He has great instincts
and recovery ability on that end. But moreover, he is a legitimate shot
creator at center or even at the four who can create off the bounce and knockdown shots with ease off pull-ups or drives to the rim. He’s a terrific
finisher inside due to his length and touch and is already starting to
experiment with shots that could make him special, such as some of the
turnaround pull-ups, the fake-spin shimmies and even the weirdo floater 3s.
He is a historic prospect, one well within the tapestry of former elite big
prospects such as Bill Walton, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Hakeem Olajuwon, Patrick
Ewing, Shaquille O’Neal and Tim Duncan. It remains to be seen if he can live
up to their hype, but his game fits within the modern construct of basketballjust as well as those players’ games did in their eras.

他會立刻成為NBA最大、最長的球員,這也使他能改變球場防守的幾何學。他防守上有優秀的直覺與回位能力。但除此之外,他還是一個合格的中鋒Shot Creator(甚至是4號)而且可以在運球後拔起投籃或是切入至籃下。由於他的身材與投籃手感他在禁區的終結相當驚人並已經在嘗試一些特殊的終結方式,像是轉身拔起投籃、假轉身晃開對手甚至是怪咖的三分拋投。他是個歷史級的新秀,完全可以比肩如Bill Walton、Kareem Abdul-Jabbar、
Hakeem Olajuwon、Patrick Ewing、Shaquille O'Neal與Tim Duncan這些精英長人潛力。他是否能實現這些前輩所造成的轟動仍有待觀察,但他的打法與現代完美契合--與上述這些傳奇們一模一樣。

Wembanyama has every chance to have the kind of storied career all those
players had as Hall of Famers. It is actually somewhat easy to envision
Wembanyama’s upside as being the best player on planet Earth someday, which
is a sentence I have never written about another prospect before.

Wembanyama有著成就如同這些傳奇球員般名人堂生涯的一切機會。事實上,我可以清楚的預見Wembanyama的天花板有朝一日可以成為地球上最好的球員

而這,是我從未寫給任何一名新秀的句子。

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※ 編輯: EZ78 (71.232.216.168 美國), 05/17/2023 13:41:57

slowsoul199805/17 13:41太長

Chanlin01 05/17 13:42太吹了吧

h5t6566556 05/17 13:42模板是誰?

ooxxman 05/17 13:42馬刺傳奇開吹

benson50913 05/17 13:42左打喬丹右打姆斯 GOAT 確定

h5t6566556 05/17 13:42球探報告不會給模板嗎…?

chping0522 05/17 13:42他的模板就是文班亞馬

a11011788 05/17 13:43吹起來 要當傳奇前提是健康

earldunn 05/17 13:43只要將狀元給popo指導,最後只會有三個字 "名人堂"

hayabusa200405/17 13:43比小丑更高更快的中鋒 馬刺王朝再現

xjapan329 05/17 13:43T2.0報到,馬刺王朝再起

AQUANGEL 05/17 13:43吹到好像快拿MVP了

xjapan329 05/17 13:43TD2.0

umin928 05/17 13:43原來是最長的中鋒

ebv 05/17 13:44西門胖虎也是吹上天 大家等著看

Ceferino 05/17 13:44希望給馬刺選到

eightone81 05/17 13:44奇行種外星人哪來的模板

EZ78 05/17 13:44西門胖虎絕對沒吹到這個高度

xjapan329 05/17 13:44吹得越高會怎樣,樓下懂的

takechance 05/17 13:44模板就是KD啊

ABiao0220 05/17 13:45推翻譯 好長!

shorty5566 05/17 13:45真的太早…

cool8418 05/17 13:45靜態天賦的確很誇張 但就是打了才知道

EZ78 05/17 13:45模板可能是看一名新秀最沒用的東西lol

YunHung46 05/17 13:45太吹了吧

seanww 05/17 13:45看來傳球要被馬刺修好了

EZ78 05/17 13:45大部分根本都不像

JustWinslow 05/17 13:46地板應該是LBJ 天花板就不知道

chenborruey 05/17 13:46他這身材有這天賦就史無前例

jyekid 05/17 13:46他就是新模板而且有機會讓nba修改規則 看他造化了

EZ78 05/17 13:46之後Vecenie或Givony出聯合試訓的文依照慣例我也會

dahlia7357 05/17 13:46小丑還是比較傳奇,這種很容易變成玻璃狀元

PanaS0Nic 05/17 13:467-3的KD

EZ78 05/17 13:46翻ㄅ

h5t6566556 05/17 13:46純粹想看模板對比跟若干年後 球探真的眼光準嗎XD

karmel 05/17 13:46原來他有230磅

victor21835 05/17 13:47地板 lbj? y

ck326 05/17 13:47保持健康應該是最重要的事,這要看造化和運氣了

victor21835 05/17 13:47太早了吧 幾年前有個澳洲金童 打一打也普而已

wishxuso 05/17 13:47如果是真的是巨星都會突破模板啦

PanaS0Nic 05/17 13:47當年擠下他拿到未來之星獎的不知道在想什麼

karmel 05/17 13:47球探眼光很難完全準 除非未來人

kim1214 05/17 13:47最大的缺點 球商 有馬刺養成應該能改善不少

ebv 05/17 13:47地板LBJ?? XDDD

karmel 05/17 13:48他的天賦跟西門是不同等級

ccccccccccc 05/17 13:48馬刺養成還是很有信心的

xjapan329 05/17 13:48那個地板LBJ很會喔

Mentha 05/17 13:48球探報告可以參考,但不要忽視養成是很複雜的

osmand3602 05/17 13:48被馬刺選到是真的有可能,其他坦隊就....

lens82801 05/17 13:48模板是提供球風的想像,但斑馬的型是獨一無二的

ClownT 05/17 13:48應該也不只230磅了 Wemby其實很壯 是手太長了導致視

ClownT 05/17 13:48覺很瘦

Mentha 05/17 13:48真的有那麼容易那每年或者大年的狀元都有抵達明星?

jyekid 05/17 13:49起碼馬刺有時間慢慢養 目前沒有擠進季後賽壓力

Proteiner 05/17 13:49大旱 健康個5季再說

benboy 05/17 13:497呎5吋的KD還是張伯倫? XDDD

Mentha 05/17 13:49我是覺得還太早,這種體型理論是很難養成的

chenborruey 05/17 13:49胖虎西門金童的天賦還是比不上法蛛

slowsoul199805/17 13:49上一個打出來的竹節蟲類型是誰啊 沒啥印象

Mentha 05/17 13:49因為前面的案例相對少

karmel 05/17 13:49他防守端的上限也很誇張 而且已經有展現出很多了

EZ78 05/17 13:49他比Chet Holmgren體測時重了至少35磅(大約17kg)

jamescyt 05/17 13:49一場都沒打就當代傳奇球星了

EZ78 05/17 13:50算是給一個參考值

PanaS0Nic 05/17 13:50上一個竹節蟲應該是字母,再上一個KD

benboy 05/17 13:50KD算竹節蟲類型嗎? 還是剛進聯盟的字母哥? XD

kasugamaru 05/17 13:50感覺像KD plus

Mentha 05/17 13:5017KG阿...不少耶

karmel 05/17 13:50nbadraft模板給他Ralph sampson他當年也是很猛但受

PanaS0Nic 05/17 13:50只是現在字母已經壯到不像竹節蟲了

gugipin 05/17 13:50地板lbj是指假摔技術嗎

karmel 05/17 13:50

benboy 05/17 13:50至少新球季可以期待各隊後衛挑戰斑馬了 XD

shorty5566 05/17 13:51就算進nba練壯 還要同時兼顧健康手感協調性 非常困

shorty5566 05/17 13:51

jyekid 05/17 13:51亞尼斯吧 不過也是進聯盟幾年後

karmel 05/17 13:51只是斑馬靈活性更高

melzard 05/17 13:51這個吹到可以統治整個聯盟的級別了

WBYY 05/17 13:51吹到哭了

TradePau 05/17 13:51說實在太吹了吧 出席率還是很重要

EZ78 05/17 13:52但他不少缺點在他生涯前幾年會非常致命啦

benboy 05/17 13:52想像一下7呎5吋可以追著curry跑? 太荒謬了XD

TWeng 05/17 13:52真的這麼強嗎?

karmel 05/17 13:52這個吹是蠻合理的 因為真的很猛 而且在職業聯賽也打

EZ78 05/17 13:52傳球視野不好 投籃機制與選擇惡劣

karmel 05/17 13:52出表現

f9161498 05/17 13:52健康都好說

Gilbertsky 05/17 13:52他目前缺點太多了 養成很重要 馬刺應該會做得很好

EZ78 05/17 13:52所以也是一個需要一點耐心的新秀

EZ78 05/17 13:53尤其是傳球視野如果一輩子都開發不出來就是會卡關

h5t6566556 05/17 13:53想看KD家族一隊 太陽本體KD 金塊小KD 鵜鶘小KD 7呎4

love1500274 05/17 13:53Chet的一生勁敵

h5t6566556 05/17 13:53吋的KD 這組一隊不知道有沒有搞頭

karmel 05/17 13:53缺點多 但優點也真的太香

dahlia7357 05/17 13:53傳球視野不好,被包夾就會失誤

takechance 05/17 13:54傳球視野是POPO強項,馬刺戰術體系超豐富

Mentha 05/17 13:54但如果說傳球視野我覺得有些人怎麼學都學不會

benboy 05/17 13:54球探報告也說"這些全部都是可以輕易修正的問題"

Mentha 05/17 13:54有點像天賦問題

shorty5566 05/17 13:55KD家族笑死

Mentha 05/17 13:55當初Wiggings也是被期待能做組織工作

etop 05/17 13:55模板 7尺KD

earldunn 05/17 13:55 Chet的一生勁敵是lofton

Mentha 05/17 13:55結果就是到了勇士硬是簡化他的工作才讓他很好用

jyekid 05/17 13:56看你要的天賦到什麼程度要像阿肥 肥屌就別想了 能

benboy 05/17 13:56投籃選擇差覺得還好 命中率夠高就沒差XD

jyekid 05/17 13:56傳到弱邊三分倒是可以

Mentha 05/17 13:56這長的超高臂展嚇死人的我只能說有些部分的考量

EZ78 05/17 13:56問題就是 他命中率很糟糕XD

Mentha 05/17 13:56或許不是靜態體格上可以確定的

longing2046 05/17 13:56終於可以不用看到腿詹了 期待斑馬

karmel 05/17 13:57他投射很有潛力 但不穩

darren31112 05/17 13:57但他那個身材真的很怕他會斷掉

sakraypopo 05/17 13:57增重後能否保持目前這種超標的協調性是個問題

takechance 05/17 13:57這咖要養,跟字母一樣,少說三年

EZ78 05/17 13:57他的投射基本上完全依賴手感

Rinehot 05/17 13:57KD家族薪水會爆表…

Kappa 05/17 13:57一場球都還沒打已經吹成GOAT了

EZ78 05/17 13:57投籃機制非常的糟糕

Mentha 05/17 13:57我也印象當初Fultz也被說NBA READY

benboy 05/17 13:58這份報告對斑馬改善投射很有信心

EZ78 05/17 13:58他掛肉倒還好 他的體重早就開始掛了

Mentha 05/17 13:58結果進了NBA開始莫名的投籃失智症之旅

takechance 05/17 13:58投籃差是因為下盤不穩啊,整個竹節蟲

Mentha 05/17 13:58只能說這種型肯定規劃上很複雜

Irene534 05/17 13:59肌肉傷勢整季報銷? 什麼傷這麼嚴重@@

EZ78 05/17 13:59沒 Vecenie是說上下半身脫節

karmel 05/17 13:59只是就算當一個靈活性更好而且更高、手又更長 還有

karmel 05/17 13:59持球能力的狗貝也很可怕了

EZ78 05/17 13:59因為是季末了 傷一下當然就報銷阿XDDD

onepiecefan 05/17 13:59總結GOAT

ZoMBieAH 05/17 14:00我就問NBA2K要給幾分

thwasdf 05/17 14:00感覺如果重訓計劃一兩年後很多東西可能會不一樣 好

thwasdf 05/17 14:00像不是”輕易”改善耶XD

karmel 05/17 14:00我覺得2K開盤搞不好就給他85、86

melzard 05/17 14:01弄成狗貝是整組壞掉吧…

EZ78 05/17 14:01增重應該是他最不需要擔心的東西lol

benboy 05/17 14:01想到KD剛進聯盟時投籃也很慘 XDD

karmel 05/17 14:01他籃下得分能力也不錯 就算只打籃下殺傷力也夠強了

karmel 05/17 14:01但投射是決定他上限

thwasdf 05/17 14:01球商跟閱讀比賽能力我相信波波會教 投籃就是未知數

ppo7741 05/17 14:01嘻嘻 從馬刺還在打賽季講到現在 終於可以說 抱歉

ppo7741 05/17 14:01斑馬是我刺的 勿搶

yeh6476 05/17 14:01接近8呎的臂展…

karmel 05/17 14:02有自主進攻能力的狗貝算他地板吧

korgh413 05/17 14:02馬刺養個4年 應該就無敵了

karmel 05/17 14:02只是就算只有那樣也很可怕了

jyekid 05/17 14:02再嫌就沒有人可以選了 只能做正確的事然後靜待事情

forfree99 05/17 14:03球商比較靠天賦 但只要長成KD就夠賺了

jyekid 05/17 14:03發展

thwasdf 05/17 14:03增重不是問題啦XD 我是說這份報告提到能輕易改善的

Gilbertsky 05/17 14:03健康吧 能阻擋他的應該只有健康 身體要承受很多訓練

karmel 05/17 14:03灰狼可以出個8支首輪的等級

thwasdf 05/17 14:03部份 如果是牽涉到協調性或肌肉使用 就沒那麼容易

willyhsuan 05/17 14:03看過有人說模板是GenZ Jabbar

Irene534 05/17 14:03三分線外的拋投? 是天勾嗎

EZ78 05/17 14:03說最不用擔心是因為他早就在增重了

karmel 05/17 14:03如果他長成KD是超賺吧 防守端威脅性又更強

kenike 05/17 14:04高風險高報酬

willyhsuan 05/17 14:04如果有Jabbar的耐戰度應該會是Goat有力競爭者

karmel 05/17 14:04他還真的有類似三分線拋投的play XD

jackjoke200705/17 14:05太長了吧 長到不可能是AI寫的

HOTBIRD 05/17 14:05進來被小丑教訓

abc31216 05/17 14:05好險是我刺抽到

EZ78 05/17 14:05https://streamable.com/he11jf

ppo7741 05/17 14:05期待變成現代賈霸

gameow1124 05/17 14:05先打完一季不受傷再談,最近的前三順位常常受傷。

EZ78 05/17 14:05三分線拋頭

※ 編輯: EZ78 (71.232.216.168 美國), 05/17/2023 14:06:07

thwasdf 05/17 14:05他頭幾年一定被教訓的吧XD 就慢慢養啊

mhkt 05/17 14:05有錯字哦 我傳水球給你了

thbw666 05/17 14:06希望他下半身的力量練的起來 打出強硬球風

Y225 05/17 14:06板模就KD,也有聽過KD+狗貝

kevinacc084 05/17 14:06太早 但身為刺迷非常期待斑馬的表現

Y225 05/17 14:07因為進攻模板是KD,防守是狗貝但是速度移動比狗貝

HotMike 05/17 14:07天賦100% 但還沒打 先打過3個完整賽季再來說

Y225 05/17 14:07來說更好,或許超越?

onionandy 05/17 14:08Fultz誰料得到他進聯盟後私下自己亂改投籃機制

Y225 05/17 14:09進來就知道了,也可能跟喇叭一樣直接打出來也可能

Y225 05/17 14:09還要磨一下

karmel 05/17 14:09KD也曾經不準過 但後來就很可怕

karmel 05/17 14:10如果真的是KD+狗貝 那真的很變態

jyekid 05/17 14:10直接往三號進攻練好了看起來他想持球

Irene534 05/17 14:10以他身高來說 他的運球真的好的誇張

Irene534 05/17 14:11馬刺王朝再起(?)

jyekid 05/17 14:11速度跟得上他的直接顏射 只矮半個頭的用速度過他

grende 05/17 14:11進攻比較像KP

mhkt 05/17 14:12正常來說4號位比較優

karmel 05/17 14:12他好像本來就會打到四號

h5t6566556 05/17 14:12樓上說的就是跟腱大傷前的KD那時候還能有爆發力交叉

Y225 05/17 14:12對,模板還有更強的KP

h5t6566556 05/17 14:12變向過人 不然就顏射

brian455461 05/17 14:12popo:給我練傳球

benboy 05/17 14:12KP有常常crossover後在用後撤步投三分嗎? XD

karmel 05/17 14:13他好像還有在長高

Y225 05/17 14:13他那高度還能左右橫移真的變態

karmel 05/17 14:13他又比KP更快更靈活

h5t6566556 05/17 14:14還在發育期那滿扯的

ppo7741 05/17 14:14保持健康,然後未來就是你的

PrimeChaoz 05/17 14:14這篇真的是又長又吹欸

benboy 05/17 14:14馬刺教練團今晚應該興奮地睡不著了吧 XDDD

karmel 05/17 14:14還能自己持球 防守端也更好

AAApower 05/17 14:14抽到一個瘦皮猴高興成這樣,笑了。

ppo7741 05/17 14:14別說教練團 我們刺迷已經高潮到模糊了

jyekid 05/17 14:15精準地說是抽到公認的狀元

karmel 05/17 14:15官方身高7呎4 他現在好像7呎5

h5t6566556 05/17 14:15再長下去身高會不會超過姚明…

mhkt 05/17 14:15還是要注意他的身體狀況 畢竟有因傷報銷過

kidolin 05/17 14:16連選秀都還沒入選就開始舒服…這領先程度也是GOAT等

kidolin 05/17 14:16

karmel 05/17 14:16比狗貝還高半顆頭

EZ78 05/17 14:16這篇文是今天剛出爐熱騰騰的餒

Y225 05/17 14:16看影片都覺得是7“4的KI了

h5t6566556 05/17 14:17網上有他跟狗貝的影片不是嗎

mhkt 05/17 14:17…… 還是讓我看到錯字 我也是一段一段看的

EZ78 05/17 14:17但是球探其實也指出他不少缺陷

karmel 05/17 14:17但姚明手偏短 斑馬臂展8呎…

s920223 05/17 14:17還沒進NBA就是山羊候選人了

h5t6566556 05/17 14:17https://youtu.be/aKm6jza27zw

Y225 05/17 14:17斑馬現在評價就是什麼都有

EZ78 05/17 14:17@@我再校一下

h5t6566556 05/17 14:17兩年前的斑馬

interact 05/17 14:18地板應該是KP

EZ78 05/17 14:18只是不影響他的天賦高到不可思議

※ 編輯: EZ78 (71.232.216.168 美國), 05/17/2023 14:26:23

karmel 05/17 14:18現在斑馬又比那時候還高

mhkt 05/17 14:18我等等在重看一遍好了 XDD

kediflower 05/17 14:18太吹了叭 NBA一場都還沒打就在當代傳奇

Irene534 05/17 14:18刺迷興奮到模糊

karmel 05/17 14:18他的天花板應該是GOAT沒問題

h5t6566556 05/17 14:19以他的年紀可能還會再長高啦 很多NBA球星進來都還在

h5t6566556 05/17 14:19長高

karmel 05/17 14:19但能不能長到超高水準還要觀望

mhkt 05/17 14:19他的身材對抗也要看0.0 U19國家隊被小胖Lofton頂

mhkt 05/17 14:19到不要不要的

karmel 05/17 14:19只是真的很期待他進聯盟

interact 05/17 14:20臂展8尺防守覆蓋真的嚇死人

ppo7741 05/17 14:21刺迷光能抽到這麼久違的狀元就夠開心了

h5t6566556 05/17 14:21配上他的活動力 還有那可怕的臂展 防守範圍覆蓋應

h5t6566556 05/17 14:21該滿廣的…

Duncan7406 05/17 14:22這篇有料 很多他打球的特點和細節都講得很到位

RicFlair 05/17 14:22交給波波了

ccccccccccc 05/17 14:22希望可以健康啦

kaojet 05/17 14:228尺的臂展 …

abs135790 05/17 14:22講一堆 先有本事完整打完幾個賽季不大傷再說

Duncan7406 05/17 14:22尤其是投籃出手選擇那段 只看嗨賴也看得出缺陷

mhkt 05/17 14:24有錯字 我傳給你了

karmel 05/17 14:25他這種身高還能這樣運球真的不科學 雖然運球穩定性

karmel 05/17 14:25也有待加強 但已經超可怕了

benboy 05/17 14:25球探報告就是說能量化的動靜態天賦都超高

xjapan329 05/17 14:26馬刺體系跟POPO真的是這個狀元最好的溫床了

benboy 05/17 14:26不能量化的如球商和傳導等都還要練

h5t6566556 05/17 14:26本來的完成度就不低了 未來可期啦

h5t6566556 05/17 14:27POPO的關門弟子

h5t6566556 05/17 14:27POPO看來退休又要延遲了

EZ78 05/17 14:27@@感謝幫校

winnerdinner05/17 14:27太早,練壯過程先保持健康吧....

sunnyyoung 05/17 14:27勉強能稱為他模版的 大概只有Ralph Sampson了

karmel 05/17 14:27他的確沒到很raw 只是跟他天花板還有很大距離

Duncan7406 05/17 14:28這篇也提很多人不會注意到的是他彈跳和速度並不突出

karmel 05/17 14:28以他現在的能力 只要不受傷也是站穩NBA的水準

karmel 05/17 14:29他的彈跳其實也沒必要太突出XD

sanadayasu 05/17 14:30吹成這樣壓力山大

testttt 05/17 14:30靜態天賦太神 只要投射練穩定 就超強了

heveninferno05/17 14:30攻守俱佳,掛肉上去再把協調練起來

h5t6566556 05/17 14:30這身高臂展 彈跳還好吧 4樓跳投有差嗎

HellFly 05/17 14:30這種比較怕傷病,要打NBA勢必要增重,但是傷病也可

HellFly 05/17 14:31能變多

Duncan7406 05/17 14:317'4有絕佳的手眼動態接球持球動作就會變跟鬼一樣

PanaS0Nic 05/17 14:318吋的臂展是要彈跳什麼...甲魚湯嗎?

h5t6566556 05/17 14:31身高還在長的樣子 搞不好會長得比姚明還高

karmel 05/17 14:31他受到關注程度絕對是這幾年第一 今年NBA的流量還比

karmel 05/17 14:31小丑高XD

icou 05/17 14:32胖虎當初完全沒有吹到西門現在這程度

karmel 05/17 14:32他跳太高反而會怕

ahsoo 05/17 14:328吋臂展? 好慘喔

icou 05/17 14:32 *斑馬 怎麼會打成西門....

grende 05/17 14:33再跳高球都不知道要怎麼放了

jyekid 05/17 14:34發底線球直接往籃筐丟

PanaS0Nic 05/17 14:34呎啦XD怎麼會打成吋XD

mhkt 05/17 14:34這翻譯肯定翻到累癱了…… 錯字這樣算少了 0.0

mhkt 05/17 14:34XDDD

doublekill 05/17 14:35太早

XBUCKXMR 05/17 14:36今年好特別 還沒選就吹成這樣

danms 05/17 14:37前提是要健康啊

※ 編輯: EZ78 (71.232.216.168 美國), 05/17/2023 14:38:18

jyekid 05/17 14:37八吋是老二吧 還對折量的

jeff785chen 05/17 14:38馬刺選到他的反應跟拿冠軍一樣

XBUCKXMR 05/17 14:39不過有歐洲聯賽的經歷 應該不會爛到哪去

XBUCKXMR 05/17 14:39頂多就是當不成主將 泯然眾人

jeff785chen 05/17 14:39結果後年馬刺選到大皇子布朗尼 LBJ底薪簽馬刺幫pop

kidolin 05/17 14:40畢竟5/17就是馬刺今年的季後賽呀

jeff785chen 05/17 14:40o拿冠軍世紀大和解

mhkt 05/17 14:40XDDD

sonwxy 05/17 14:41好像Discovery之類的旁白

mhkt 05/17 14:42接下來看馬刺怎麼調教斑馬了

icou 05/17 14:42對坦一整年的球隊來說 今天就是他們的finals g7

karmel 05/17 14:42抽到的當下馬刺代表直接拍桌後跳起來 超開心

danielqwop 05/17 14:42只要健康地板名人堂,這評價飛天了

sakuraha 05/17 14:43我記得當年吉翁也是吹的跟什麼一樣,結果.....

Duncan7406 05/17 14:44今年還沒進NBA前就有機會在FIBA看到他了

ahsoo 05/17 14:44健康的胖虎確實是頂級的 '健康'.......嗯

benboy 05/17 14:44zion只要健康也很猛啊

king8 05/17 14:45完了完了 明年其他29隊要陪打了

benboy 05/17 14:458月有世界盃熱身賽 應該看的到斑馬吧?

magamanzero 05/17 14:45阿就不健康啊 那沒啥好說的 膝蓋專家都開示了

wap7788 05/17 14:46推…長文翻譯

mhkt 05/17 14:46本來健康就是一門必備課題了 ……

www90173 05/17 14:46模板聽說是大一號的kp

Duncan7406 05/17 14:46而且之前不是說有可能會來台灣熱身?

jyekid 05/17 14:46蔡恩健康真的強

benboy 05/17 14:46馬刺若真選到皇子 然後LBJ也跟著來 這畫面太美 XD

Lhmstu 05/17 14:46明年預約季後賽

Rainning454505/17 14:46雖然看起來很吹,但真的只剩傷兵才能阻止他成長,恭

Rainning454505/17 14:46喜nba終於有下一個門面

asoft40 05/17 14:48他的缺點跟可愛幾乎一樣耶 傳球跟投籃

karmel 05/17 14:49Zion進攻端確實超級猛 但健康問題

peteryen 05/17 14:50但健康的胖虎真的強

Mradult 05/17 14:54看到一半就不想看了,各種吹

Mradult 05/17 14:55LBJ當初不知道有沒有吹到這麼強

CGtheGREAT 05/17 14:55給波宗師跟鄧師傅調教下必有大成

a22122212 05/17 14:57進攻球商感覺是個弱點

EZ78 05/17 14:57LBJ當時比這個更高

if2 05/17 14:57要能捱過整骨隊的考驗

EZ78 05/17 14:57電視直播高中生比賽 高中生直接上雜誌封面

magamanzero 05/17 14:57LBJ就前無古人不是?

Ensidia 05/17 14:58唯一問題健康 LBJ最了不起的特點 健康打了20年

EZ78 05/17 14:58但他Hype的程度 很有可能僅次於LBJ了

Ensidia 05/17 14:58還有當年LBJ其實比斑馬還吹 造勢超誇張

kingianlin 05/17 14:58Chet前一生潛在之敵= =

Ensidia 05/17 14:58高中的時候就是一堆籃球雜誌的封面

kingianlin 05/17 14:59他去馬刺應該會被波波電很慘

Ensidia 05/17 14:59剛進聯盟就有皇帝稱號 前無古人

benboy 05/17 14:59LBJ當初聲勢之高也有瓜哥的功勞 最強高中生對決

EZ78 05/17 15:00至少是還沒聽到有人叫Wemby The Chosen One啦

peace1way 05/17 15:00說地板是LBJ的是太看得起他還是太看不起LBJ呀?

darktasi 05/17 15:00弱化版的AD?

EZ78 05/17 15:00LBJ當年造勢程度絕對是前無古人 後來者也難以超越的

Ensidia 05/17 15:01斑馬的身材型態跟傷病史來說 不太可能可以打15-20年

Ensidia 05/17 15:01能統治聯盟10年就已經超出預期了

ddkkz2003 05/17 15:01Lebron當年的評價更高 球探報告都google的到

magamanzero 05/17 15:01LBJ到現在 還是沒有機體超越他的

Ensidia 05/17 15:02LBJ是從一開始就以耐戰著稱的

futley 05/17 15:02Zion當初也是這樣吹!後面整個爛掉

benboy 05/17 15:03LBJ當初吹得很高也名符其實 XDD

kingianlin 05/17 15:03Zion沒吹那麼高啦

kingianlin 05/17 15:03這位從前幾年就大吹特吹了= =

EZ78 05/17 15:03Zion那個吹法比較接近密西根五虎

flipflap 05/17 15:03太早吹

EZ78 05/17 15:04Zion高中當下甚至不是評價最高的

kingianlin 05/17 15:04光馬刺擺爛選他就不知道聽了幾年

futley 05/17 15:047'4的KD有多恐怖呀

www2967 05/17 15:04胖虎進馬刺不可能讓他想吃什麼就什麼.....當然就互

www2967 05/17 15:04相傷害催蜜就是@@

edwei 05/17 15:05LBJ的機體真的獨一無二

Ensidia 05/17 15:05不過斑馬的確很大可能是KD級的選手 KD級還不夠強嗎

Y225 05/17 15:06胖虎沒有吹那麼高啦,圍巾和CC應該都吹的更高

Ensidia 05/17 15:06胖虎的評價不算狀元裡面吹的高的 身材太差

toeic900 05/17 15:06吹起來

Ensidia 05/17 15:07一堆報告都有特別點出他身高不夠的問題

tsai18 05/17 15:10LBJ當年吹的程度是最誇張的

ray333 05/17 15:10最後一句看到想吐,每年iphone也說這是全世界最猛

ahsoo 05/17 15:10健康的Oden也很強啊 但就是敗在健康......

tsai18 05/17 15:10而且從他高一開始就在吹了

ray333 05/17 15:10的手機

fantacliff 05/17 15:10等跟勇士打完還活著再來吹 在師傅面前就是一根比較

fantacliff 05/17 15:11長的木樁

ahsoo 05/17 15:12翻看紀錄 一眉雖然玻璃 但能打那麼多年也很難得了

kobe741107 05/17 15:13END

IKnowWhy 05/17 15:14吹上天 沒籃子 下場通常不怎樣

IKnowWhy 05/17 15:14LBJ現在的成就看來 根本不算吹吧

qwert860921 05/17 15:15有看到某個球探報告寫的模板:1.沒有模板獨一無二 2

rvscpmi 05/17 15:15健康跟球商是重點 他擋拆完全不知道要幹嘛

qwert860921 05/17 15:15.7呎4的KD 3.更大隻的KP

suckmanisme 05/17 15:15太吹了啦...傷兵這個真的要好好注意...

ENCOREH3345605/17 15:16已經受過傷又即將選秀是我也把病情蓋牌XX

aDesperado 05/17 15:16至少在GDP退休後,可以再關注馬刺隊比賽了

mqhung 05/17 15:16先好好養胖吧,拜託!

Hohenzollern05/17 15:17Zion健康是頂極版本的Larry Johnson

karmel 05/17 15:18斑馬聲勢也是這一兩年才起來 兩年前知道斑馬的還沒

karmel 05/17 15:18有很多 原本這梯聲勢最旺的好像是emoni bates

Hohenzollern05/17 15:19G.Oden大一整季帶著手傷打NCAA 展現出色的防守能力

Hohenzollern05/17 15:20補籃+吃餅都很確實 才會被NBA球隊期待

karmel 05/17 15:20但bates去大學打球後聲勢直線下滑 現在預測二輪中段

karmel 05/17 15:20去了 不然原本也吹蠻高

powermountai05/17 15:21不然要相信刺黑?不是說可愛天花板阿里渣? poor

karmel 05/17 15:22Oden膝蓋炸掉 後來說可能是因為長短腳

asdjjdsa 05/17 15:23有了Zion的例子 吹成這樣看看就好

iorijkl 05/17 15:23好,下季支持馬刺

mirac1e 05/17 15:24看這報告還以為斑馬是MJ的模板 笑死

musichour 05/17 15:25養的好無限可能 養差了就kp吧

testttt 05/17 15:26胖虎是太易傷病不能上場 球場上的表現吹得沒問題

Hohenzollern05/17 15:262007選秀會和今年一樣 聯盟最坦二個球隊跌出前三順

Hohenzollern05/17 15:26位XD

csticker 05/17 15:28這身高臂展在2k無解的存在 隨便蓋

bursty 05/17 15:28Ralph Sampson條件也不比他差啊…

karmel 05/17 15:29他地板就更高持球能力更好的KP

rgo 05/17 15:29都是菜鳥 先報告吹出合約再說 難怪幾十年都出不了幾

rgo 05/17 15:29個好狀元

karmel 05/17 15:29Ralph也是傷勢 不然新人年就超猛

willtaiwan 05/17 15:31他那個不是沒籃子,而是運球後的後仰跳投做蠻多的,

aru0926 05/17 15:31推翻譯 辛苦

karmel 05/17 15:32但斑馬動態天賦也很高

EZ78 05/17 15:33他有籃子 只是出力的方式與投籃選擇都非常差

willtaiwan 05/17 15:36投籃選擇雖有待商榷,但是其實對他確實是空擋;他

willtaiwan 05/17 15:36不受傷的話會是籃球版的大谷翔平,前無古人的打法,

oo98560 05/17 15:36他220多公分,跟kd 一樣敏捷,還會投。就是這麼誇張

willtaiwan 05/17 15:36歐洲球員很大優勢是16-17歲就能加入職業隊接受三到

willtaiwan 05/17 15:36四年的正規籃球訓練,對比美國大多只有一年大學正規

willtaiwan 05/17 15:36訓練

iahts23 05/17 15:38唯一擔心就身體健康啦 期待

Antares 05/17 15:40速度稍慢的大號KD

thirtyto 05/17 15:40攻守一體 健康的話 下一個KING

u9596g12 05/17 15:46有三分球的TD 乾 太吹了

iorittn 05/17 15:50簡單說就是神獸等級

garlic2012 05/17 15:54地板LBJ,全聯盟都住地下室了吧。

Anyotw 05/17 15:56商業聯盟不吹怎麼讓你花錢

tonypong 05/17 15:57LBJ當年的模板我印象中是雙MJ…是蠻吹的,但事後看

tonypong 05/17 15:57其實並不誇張…

tonypong 05/17 15:59Ralph Sampson心態沒有斑馬好。不過真的也是因為不

tonypong 05/17 15:59夠健康

shaon 05/17 16:00一場比賽都還沒打 就吹成這樣

darkreborn 05/17 16:04推翻譯,感謝

dk971355 05/17 16:05先養成然後抱持健康打出成績吧

shellback 05/17 16:10健康和對抗性還不確定吧 不好說

abcd970271 05/17 16:13地板有三分的gobert,外加能傳球,還不會奶油手,

abcd970271 05/17 16:13光這樣就很好了

kobegary34 05/17 16:14太吹

oncee 05/17 16:16都還沒打球就吹到天上去

Wavecloud 05/17 16:16還要一段適應期才能確定他能走到哪 因為他很特別

oncee 05/17 16:17Oden還是LBJ都不知道,吹的越高到時候就很好笑了

SCLPAL 05/17 16:19恭喜馬刺王朝再臨

thirtyto 05/17 16:20機體真的神獸級 新一代頭牌 馬刺養成也ok 能期待

OnlyLifeOnce05/17 16:21先保持健康吧

czoo00 05/17 16:22KD pro Max

jalsonice 05/17 16:23不要吹太早 看怎麼養

jyekid 05/17 16:25Evan Mobley 第一年15.0 8.3 應該可以期待文班山打

jyekid 05/17 16:25個18 9 如果健康的話

loveandy58 05/17 16:26Ok

czoo00 05/17 16:33比贏了總冠軍還開心https://youtu.be/OjGdeIMrkKA

czoo00 05/17 16:33https://youtu.be/OjGdeIMrkKA

openlion 05/17 16:40我覺得板模字母哥吧

hsienhao 05/17 16:44幸運版BolBol 全面版KP

h5t6566556 05/17 16:52模板字母哥個鬼 他有三分 有中距離 你要確定欸?

gogoegg 05/17 16:57反正有防守 能拉到外圍去 對POPO來說就非常好用了

kakasi987 05/17 17:03斑馬碎片終於湊齊準備換UR卡出來XDDDD

snobbish 05/17 17:16看他彎腰運球真的好辛苦

tahikuro 05/17 17:17球商很難養的 特別是不用球商可以完爆對手

tahikuro 05/17 17:18文班打不出18.9的 第一年他應該比不上莫布里

tahikuro 05/17 17:19他的傳球不算是優點 防守型態和戈貝爾不同

ChenWay 05/17 17:19Chet先能夠上場打球吧

tahikuro 05/17 17:22還沒在NBA就說下一個門面太早

tahikuro 05/17 17:26下半身力量幾乎都是天分 後天練不成

wasiyyy 05/17 17:27感覺還有很多要磨練的地方,但磨得好真的有很多想像

tahikuro 05/17 17:27威廉斯因為身高太矮 預測順位不穩

tahikuro 05/17 17:27天賦看潛力他都是前後兩屆高中生最高

tahikuro 05/17 17:28高中排名太偏身高和位置了

ENCOREH3345605/17 17:36有點擔心勇士隊會把他四肢都打殘==

RevanHsu 05/17 17:37馬刺把他的傳球體格跟投籃修一修 就無敵了吧

astoor 05/17 17:38https://i.imgur.com/HjbGGrT.jpg

圖 Victor Wembanyama球探報告--當代傳奇?

ODFans 05/17 17:39勇士還不用這麼早下手啦 要下手也等養成後再說

ODFans 05/17 17:47斑馬以他的機體條件要打出18-9應該不算困難 先說得

boshrush 05/17 17:48預約歷史前三中鋒

ODFans 05/17 17:48分 那高度是三樓跳投沒幾人能守到 他協調性又好 18

ODFans 05/17 17:48我覺得還算低標 平均20當標準我都覺得不過份

ODFans 05/17 17:49稍微難一點的可能是籃板 卡位有可能卡不過老油條 不

ODFans 05/17 17:50過在三分顯學的現代 斑馬長臂就對抓長籃板很有幫助

shellback 05/17 17:51八呎臂展真的跟妖怪一樣

ODFans 05/17 17:51而且其實就算卡不過老油條 但他要在矮中鋒前面撈走

ODFans 05/17 17:51籃板也是很有可能的 畢竟常人跳起來跟他站著差不多

ODFans 05/17 17:52身為LBJ後的第一人 我覺得斑馬的標準20-10都不過份

GABA 05/17 18:06模板目前是KD 但是練壯後會不會参ㄧ點字母哥就不知

GABA 05/17 18:06道了

babyface197705/17 18:12小心神墊大隊了

calmdownplz 05/17 18:15nba 2k24怎麼給數值跟做體型,真的很想知道xd

K0RVER 05/17 18:30可以做出Curry動作的8呎臂展狗貝

a2010561501 05/17 18:40身體健康最重要,不然真的跟曇花一樣

moods 05/17 18:43感覺是 低標Lopez 高標KD 這樣?

K951753 05/17 18:52吹 用力吹

mikol 05/17 18:54他這個身材根本包不死 搭配馬刺體系要練出堪用的傳

mikol 05/17 18:54球應該不難吧

PaulOneil1 05/17 19:08他只要不受傷未來100%統治NBA

karmel 05/17 19:10馬刺球迷反應真的超嗨XD

SkyReaching 05/17 19:13斑馬還能有模板?他不就是從來沒有這樣的球員才讓大

SkyReaching 05/17 19:13家對他報以期待嗎?

jyk99 05/17 19:14讚讚讚

Brucetk 05/17 19:18Zion 當初吹到大學比賽一跌倒nike 就跌六趴,斑馬

Brucetk 05/17 19:18真的還好

tahikuro 05/17 19:18統治NBA不可能 即使詹姆士也沒有真正統治NBA

tahikuro 05/17 19:19守不到不等於出手會進 法聯防守水準這麼低

tahikuro 05/17 19:19文班命中率還是很差

tahikuro 05/17 19:20籃板不是靠手長拿的

tahikuro 05/17 19:21他沒有安德托坤博爆發力 練壯也不會變成他

hijodedios3605/17 19:25只要保持健康 預測5年內拿下mvp

glmkk 05/17 19:27瘦成這樣 遇到綠師傅就完了

syy55016 05/17 20:16也吹得太高,好好奇來nba以後到底會打得如何

swimbert 05/17 20:32問題應該就是傷病風險了

pemoney 05/17 20:44西門是沒有可是胖虎當初也是吹的超誇張

grosjeanyang05/17 21:03NBA的碰撞很硬 LBJ神人才能撐那麼久

Marytin 05/17 21:10反觀chet

karmel 05/17 21:59剛滿19歲能在法聯打那樣很猛了吧 全部命中率47%也不

karmel 05/17 21:59是說真的很糟糕

karmel 05/17 22:00外線投射是真的要加強就是了

karmel 05/17 22:00但他防守跟籃板是真的有料

karmel 05/17 22:01他第一年應該不太可能比不上Mobley

karmel 05/17 22:01斑馬進攻能力肯定是大於Emo

karmel 05/17 22:03防守端可能Emo新人年會好一點 但進攻端斑馬強不少

karmel 05/17 22:03Emo也是很瘦

SimleToMe 05/17 22:16等著看被電

yyest62845 05/17 23:49我覺得他法甲這年在擋拆走位跟犯規控制上進步很多

color1355 05/18 01:19一個字 香!

bnm89164 05/18 02:10只要不當玻璃人,這個flag會不會成真

imanikki 05/18 03:16目前可知的缺點就:1.傷病史、2.投籃機制、3.下半

imanikki 05/18 03:17身對抗性

imanikki 05/18 03:17不過後兩者是可以調整的,就看後續養成了

jor7382 05/18 08:30未看先猜進聯盟沒多久就會受傷

Seanhuang 05/18 08:37馬刺養成是不會雷啦 最重要是要保持健康

lionyoung 05/18 09:25敏捷點滿的賈霸

karmel 05/18 09:27最有機會養好的就馬刺吧

cocomol 05/18 12:16籃球界的大谷

shawncarter 05/18 17:58不要受傷的話這種天賦太可怕