[外絮] 金塊總裁透露為什麼會圍繞著阿肥建隊
Josh Kroenke Reveals Why Nuggets Chose To Build Around Nikola Jokic
金塊總裁Josh Kroenke透露為什麼會選擇圍繞著阿肥建隊
Nuggets President Josh Kroenke broke down how the franchise committed to building around Nikola Jokic in his second season.
The Denver Nuggets made an ambitious call in 2015 when they decided to build their roster around their second-round pick from the year before, Nikola Jokic. Team President Josh Kroenke explained why they decided to build around Jokic instead of Jusuf Nurkic at the time.
金塊在2015年做了一個大膽的決定,就是要圍繞著他們的第二輪選秀阿肥建隊。球隊總裁Josh Kroenke解釋為什麼選擇了阿肥而不是Nurkic
"The thing that was unfortunate was the league was trending to small-ball, shooting everywhere. It was even more extreme than it is now, everyone was trying tobe the Warriors overnight. You couldn't play Nikola and Jusuf together. We had two 7-footers who were incredibly skilled and unselfish guys, but trying to playthem together, it presented its advantages, but it was tough for them to cover when you've got four guards out there moving in sync, it's a tough defensive cover."
不幸的是當時聯盟流行是打小球、要能在每個地方投射。當時比現在更極端,一夜之間,大家都想變成勇士。你不能讓阿肥跟Nurkic同時在場上。我們有兩個技巧很好又無私的7呎長人。讓他們同時在場上有它的優勢,但當有四名後衛同時在場上移動時,協防對他們來說太難了。
Kroenke then revealed a statistical analysis showed Jokic was outperforming sophomore-season Larry Bird, which ultimately tipped the scales in Jokic's favor.
Kroenke隨後透露一份數據分析顯示阿肥的數據比大鳥第二年的數據還好,也因此最終傾向選擇阿肥
"After Nikola's first season, he made First Team All-Rookie. We were halfway through his second year and we realized we had to choose. They're both starting-level centers. Jusuf's contract was coming up in a year, so we had our analytics group run a bunch of numbers of how to compare the two and what to look for... This comparison comes through with Player A and Player B in their second season with the only difference being that Player A was two years older at the time of his second season. You could see Player B's numbers were better in every category.I guessed that Player B was Nikola... Player A was Larry Bird."
阿肥第一季後入選了新秀第一隊。第二年中間時,我們發現必須要做出選擇。他們兩個都是具有先發水準的中鋒。Nurkic的合約一年後到期,所以我們讓我們分析團隊跑數據比較兩個人跟看下能發現什麼。最後比較是球員A跟球員B在第二年的成績,唯一的差異是球員A在第二年的年紀比球員B大兩歲。你能看到球員B在每一類的數據都比A好。我猜B是阿肥,A是大鳥。(這是MPJ podcast的片段,總裁在裡面講的比較清楚,他說他猜B是阿肥,然後分析人員說他對了,然後他問A是誰,是Nurkic或聯盟中其他人嗎?結果是大鳥)
The decision to build around Jokic over Nurkic was controversial at the time, but everyone can say that it was the right decision without a doubt. While Nurkichas had a solid NBA career, he never progressed to an All-Star level while Jokic is looking to seal his third MVP in four seasons and hopefully, a back-to-backNBA title.
選阿肥而不是Nurkic的決定在當時是引起爭議的,但大家現在能說那無庸置疑,是個正確的決定。Nurkic有穩定的NBA生涯,但從未達到全明星程度,而阿肥正要拿下四年中的第三座MVP,且希望能連續兩年奪冠
The statistical comparison that showed Jokic was better than Bird might have been more precise, but Kroenke does mention the involvement of PER 36 stats. Sophomore Larry Bird averaged 19.4 points, 9.9 rebounds, and 5.0 assists per 36 minutes played, while Jokic averaged 21.6 points, 12.7 rebounds, and 6.3 assists as asophomore.
顯示阿肥比大鳥好的數據分析比較可能會更詳細,但Kroenke有提到PER36。第二年的大鳥PER 36是19.4分、9.9籃板、5.0助攻,而阿肥是21.6分、12.7籃板、6.3助攻。
Nikola Jokic Looking To Beat The Lakers Once Again
阿肥希望再次打敗湖人
The Nuggets title-defense tour will have to go through Los Angeles, as the Nuggets face the Lakers in the first round of the playoffs. The Nuggets swept the Lakers in their 2023 playoff matchup and swept them in the 23-24 regular season. Nonetheless, Jokic isn't underestimating his opposition given how tough their games have been.
金塊的衛冕之旅要先過湖人這關,他們將在第一輪就對上湖人。金塊在2023年季後賽橫掃湖人,且在23-24例行賽也橫掃湖人。僅管如此,阿肥沒低估他的對手,因跟湖人每場都是硬仗。
"I think every game in the playoff series was really tough, it could have gone either way. It was probably the toughest series we had. Yes, we beat them 4-0, but they're a really talented team. Well-built, they have a couple of guys. I have huge respect for them and I think it'll be an interesting series/round."
我想季後賽每場都很困難,輸贏都有可能。去年跟湖人可能是我們最難打的系列賽。是的,我們4-0打敗他們,但他們是很有天份的球隊,陣容堅強,對其中幾人有很大的敬意。我想會是很有趣的系列賽
Jokic averaged 27.8 points, 14.5 rebounds, and 11.8 assists against the Lakers ov
er the 2023 series. He's averaging 29.3 points, 12.0 rebounds, and 9.0 assists in three games this season, which should worry the Lakers if they hope to get over the hump and pull off a massive upset in the first round.
阿肥在2023年對湖人場均27.8分、14.5籃板跟11.8助攻。今年例行賽三場則是29.3分、12.0籃板跟9.0助攻。如果湖人想克服困難,在首輪爆冷,阿肥的確是他們該擔心的
金塊選阿肥可以算是隊史最好的選擇吧
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簡單4:0
對有敬意的對手就是使出全力
想看金塊12連勝湖人!
LBJ又要被按在地上磨擦了
去年不是說灰狼最硬?
場均7.8分?
阿肥前兩年是有聽過拿Brad Daugherty來比
阿肥:用盡全力只是想趕快回去騎馬
瓜哥表示
所以是跑數據 不是看一些精神心態面的東西
看了一下原文 你少了個2啊老哥
2輪41順位當建隊核心 看得真遠
連續MVP的聯盟第一好手差距很明顯,阿肥也回應期待
27.8
準備4:0不要不信
應該順便問問灰狼GM 當年他才是GM頭頭 現在金塊跟
公牛GM當時都在他底下
金塊在役情時對過湖人,小丑之後再也沒輸過
金塊陣容真的蠻克湖人的 湖人雙星在內線 金塊都能
壓制甚至還有優勢
抱歉 不知道為什麼copy原文少了2
一定還會有人說泡泡那個系列賽啦 湖人最強的一年也
只贏得了阿肥1.0
隊內練習,兩人不同隊的話,差異也應看的出來
有眼光超欣賞阿肥,手下留情阿
講的好像金塊會贏湖人似的,看不起球商隊?
金塊選阿肥可能是史上最好的決策
打敗湖人(X 打敗裁判(O
金塊真的是沒在低估對手 灰狼也說難打 湖人也說難打
其他方面不說,光是出勤率小丑就比Nurk高太多了
穩4:0,金塊:會贏哦
阿肥應該是金塊隊史最強了
要對抗對面8個人 真是太困難了
自信點 把 可能 拿掉
兒子湖人又要被橫掃了
今年金塊的不安要素只有板凳跟Murray的健康
伯樂無誤 沒有慧眼識阿肥的話 可能要多熬幾年
阿肥PER目前歷史第一
Connelly當年不留Nurkic跟小丑搞雙塔,結果跑去灰狼
直接梭哈搞雙塔,要不是靠AE,還真的差一點被當笑話
厲害惹
等著第一節被三哨吹下去吧 不然湖人怎麼贏
smart choice
14阿肥 16莫雷 18MPJ 都算很成功的選秀
尤其這三隻都不是前五順位
金塊泡泡那年其實不爛欸 打贏爵士被笑菜雞互啄 第二
輪直接大逆轉快艇 可愛+0+0
阿肥本來就是隊史最強, 帶隊拿首冠才剛沒多久耶
阿肥根本奇行種 打爆球探的臉
阿肥: 你將看到100%的全力肥
金塊現在會那麼強跟KCP關係很大,還是湖人放掉的ㄏ
史上最強二輪秀 大概不可能被超越了
ㄏ
四年三mvp的中鋒 之前只有三個 大帥 羅素 賈霸
而且最晚都是197x 50年前的事了
可以說擴編30隊後 阿肥是唯一四年三mvp的中鋒
3個灰衣人虎視眈眈 準備大吹特吹
魔球
真的好神
純實力歷史前五
NBA真正能成為建隊基石的球員很少
小丑無庸置疑是其中之一
沒這麼難選吧 當年Nurkic傷痛纏身 表現小丑也比較好
選到他真的賺爛了
先別說金塊是何時決定用小丑當基石 當時就是得送一
個走 後來小丑打成這樣應該也超過制服組預期了
是AD又要連敗給阿肥了
阿肥有超越瓜瓜對金塊的長期貢獻嗎
拿隊史首冠就超越甜瓜了好嗎
問就是4:0
你是說沒有頂級後衛就打不進分區冠軍賽的自幹瓜嗎
光是那一冠那個分析師獎金就賺爛了
阿肥欸 要解釋什麼?
阿肥超址 什麼都練就變這樣了
相信數據和專業分析師很棒 難怪他的球隊一堆冠軍
Nurkic拿頭組雙塔喔
這兩隊有什麼懸念?
隊史第一冠欸 比KG之於灰狼還重要 什麼瓜能比?
話說經過我精密的分析 斑馬第一年也比某T開頭馬刺
舊將還好 所以可以圍繞斑馬建隊 是不是馬刺該請我
當分析師啦?薪水來個200萬鎂就好
應該沒什麼人發現這點吧??至少這邊推文沒有
我不用看數據分析都知道要選斑馬建隊 免費
泡泡那年就AD有三分,後來LBJ不能打3號+AD的三分回不
來
有慢慢找幫手 但可惜Morris後來離開
小丑的心態也很迷,嘴上說不在意籃球,結果練的比
別人還多的技能。
我以為是看可愛度決定選擇留誰耶,肥肥胖胖的阿肥
那麼可愛,誰捨得放棄?
AD中距離已經廢了,很難不被橫掃
看了姆斯這季的嘴臉我完全不覺得金塊會贏
#低調#勿吹#8打5很難說#君子之爭
AD投射沒回來真的沒啥機會
jokic目前應該是最誇張的draft steal選秀
第二年比大鳥強,這理由就足夠留他了
他跟大鳥打不同位置吧??
好奇為甚麼會選大鳥去比?
心態就認真上班的NBA社畜 沒有很難理解吧
之前有看過類似文章,金塊選肥肥建隊當時確實是逆風
歷史性的分歧點 當初看到Nurkic被放棄我很驚訝
後來知道阿肥這麼厲害才知道原來是要2選1
Nurkic 阿肥選一個確實有吵過
奴機其實當時也受傷才被阿肥篡位
其實覺得狗蛋轉型成重型防守者才讓金塊應對各方毫無
破綻吧,KCP還是主追防輕型後衛...
丹佛勇士隊上陣啦
總之就是賭對了 賭錯的話就會一直坦下去
二輪選秀長成這樣真的意想不到
太痛了 根本當不了核心
是怎麼數據分析的啊,應該不是單純比較傳統或進階數
據吧
我記得當年不只是2選1 是不但選了阿肥還要每球都要
盡量先傳給他 過他手 讓他組織= = 當時根本異類
教練馬龍真的很棒
酸民有夠無聊,通篇沒瓜硬要提melo 出來酸,人品可
見一般。
因為數據拉一拉就跑出大鳥 所以跟大鳥比阿
超猛
裁判吹久也進化 不要不信邪 ALLIN湖人了
雞塊要吹也只能趁現在 等被完全體湖人虐爆
肥肥王者
小丑光是隊史首冠就價值連城了吧
阿肥現在成就就是金塊史上最強無誤 恐怕也是史上最
強歐洲球員
史上最全能的中鋒阿肥!可以拼歷史前十超巨啦!
誰跟湖人打不是硬仗5打8誰看都是硬仗
如果MVP拿第三座 那整個歷史就沒幾個人有了阿
阿肥那麼強但討論度真的蠻低的
說看阿肥胖胖可愛的是不是不知道他瘦過而且還蠻帥
我也要寄生
阿肥本來應該MVP 4連霸的............
沒什麼好選的16-17怎麼看都是阿肥比較強了
提數據的那個數據分析師之後應該會很搶手,想要低價
挖寶的球隊應該會趨之若鶩
不過現在有AI分析可能會更準?
湖人到底是什麼難關==
說個笑話:2輪41...nba球探最專業
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