[外絮] 尼克若想交易米丘，RJB是必要之殤

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看板NBA標題[外絮] 尼克若想交易米丘，RJB是必要之殤作者

(上邪!我欲與君相知)時間Jul 13 10:13:33 2022推噓75 推:78 噓:3 →:50

RJ Barrett a necessary sacrifice if Knicks want Donovan Mitchell
By Mike Vaccaro

若尼克想交易來米丘，RJB是必要的籌碼

The draft picks are the easy part, let’s be honest.
They are attractive to look at, for sure. Leon Rose has collected them merrily, guarded them meticulously, and jealously. There are 11 first-rounders stowed away carefully under the glass in the Knicks’ warehouse, like a prized collection of stamps, coins or baseball cards.

選秀簽好談

LR像集郵一般的呵護他們，並有多達11隻可動用首輪

Rose was not willing to part with a plethora of them a few weeks ago when the Spurs were shopping Dejounte Murray, and so Murray wound up with the Hawks. Murray is an excellent player. He and Jalen Brunson would’ve made a dynamic pairing in the backcourt at the Garden.
But he isn’t Donovan Mitchell.

幾週前，當馬刺願意交易DjM,LR不願意跟選秀權說再見，所以他最終去了老鷹。Murray是一位特別的球員，他跟Brunson的暴力後場可以活躍在花園球場上

但他不是Donovan Mitchell

And according to The Athletic, Mitchell is once again in play. According to the report, Mitchell — three-time All-Star, Westchester County native, owner of a 23.9 career points-per-game average — is being dangled by the Jazz. And the Knicks are thought to be at the front of the line, trying to swing a deal.

根據The Athletic報導，這位生涯場均23.9分的三屆全明星被擺上交易台。而尼克被認為領跑其餘球隊，並積極的促成交易。

The Knicks have all those draft picks, and this is precisely why they have assembled them. They are assets, and if you are willing to part with enough of them they can make a deal more attractive. But the Jazz are a smart operation. It will take more than draft picks — even if the Knicks are willing to part with four or five of them, which is what it took Minnesota to pry Rudy Gobert away from Utah.
The Jazz are going to want players.

尼克有交易米丘的資產- 選秀簽，而這正是尼克收集他們的原因。但即使尼克願意同灰狼帶走狗貝一般放棄4-5個選秀，爵士還會要求更多（潛力）球員

The Jazz are going to want, almost certainly, RJ Barrett (and, if I were a betting man, one of either Immanuel Quickley, Quentin Grimes or Obi Toppin).

幾乎可以肯定，RJB必須放進包裹（若我喜歡放手一博，則會從Quixkley,Grimes與Toppin中帶走一個）

And this is where things get hard.
This is where if you are Leon Rose you have to ask yourself a cold-blooded question: which version of my roster drags the Knicks closer to where they need to be? Barrett would be a tough sacrifice. Knicks fans have watched him grow up over three years. He is still only 22. His work ethic and capacity for improvement are matters of public record. And he is probably the most popular player on the team right now.
He could be a perennial All-Star.

這就是困難的地方，LR需要冷血的自問，自己想要哪種版本的隊伍。
球迷見證了他3年的成長，Barrett有天賦有能力，而且他才22歲。他是隊上最有人氣的球員。

他可能成為All Star的常客

But Mitchell — himself only 25 years old and locked up contractually for four more years — is a perennial All-Star. He has had winning in his blood forever, first at Louisville, lately with the Jazz. As tempting as a Brunson/Murray backcourt was to ponder, a Brunson/Mitchell partnership could truly project to being a cornerstone of an eventual contender.

但米丘 - 綁了4年約，25歲已經是全明星的常客。而他與JB的後場也確實可以成為追逐冠軍的基石

Me? When the choice is young with accomplishment versus younger with upside, I will take the former every time. And I absolutely love watching Barrett play, have loved watching him blossom at the Garden before our eyes.
Is it a massive haul? It is.

至於我，年輕+實績與年輕+天花板中的選擇，我總會選擇前者。

我喜歡RJB在我們的主場時，在我眼前得分成長

這是一個巨大的抉擇嗎？是的

米丘可以讓尼克總在東區前4嗎？不一定

But the Knicks are in danger right now of being in an even more difficult predicament than they were before Rose arrived, when they were simply an annual piece of the NBA’s dregs. At least when you’re awful every year there’s the lottery — even if, in the Knicks’ case, that’s proven to be a fool’s-gold quest the last 37 years.
Where they are now? Stuck in the never-never land of mediocrity, of 35 to 45 wins every year — too good to have legit lottery odds, too bad to be reckoned with as credible contenders — is a hamster wheel of oblivion, a treadmill to nowhere.

尼克面臨比LR來之前更艱難的選擇，因為尼克那時候就是聯盟的渣渣，至少當你爛透了的時候會有樂透選秀。而在尼克37年的歷史來看，每次（在交易）都是一種經典的傻瓜交易

每年35-45勝，讓尼克有如卡在倉鼠輪，不是一個可靠的競爭者，也得不到樂透為球隊注入新生命。

At some point, you have to go for the carrot.
Is Mitchell that carrot? What he is, more likely, is the kind of piece that makes the Knicks a more attractive option than they’ve been in 25 years for future free agents with wanderlust in their hearts. And again, the question is this: what version of the Knicks’ roster makes that more plausible, with Barrett or with Mitchell?
It says here Mitchell. The cost will be steep, and losing a player like Barrett will sting, and for those for whom first-round picks are more valuable than platinum there will be some wrung hands. But Knicks fans are immune to the pain by now; all they crave is a cure. Mitchell would be a pricey cure. But he makes them better. And that’s supposed to still matter.

有些時候，你總是要做出決定

米丘是那個決定嗎？他會讓尼克成為25年來最好的樣子嗎？再問你自己一次，米丘或是Barrett 你想要哪個核心的球隊。

雖然失去Barrett讓人痛苦，選秀簽沒有不見，只是變成你喜歡的樣子。尼克可望被治癒，而米丘就是那個昂貴的治療方案，他讓我們更好，這仍是最重要的。

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jyekid 07/13 10:15芭樂特變成米丘

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weather12 07/13 10:15不要吧

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sunti0519 07/13 10:16放RJB+選秀感覺很虧阿

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L9m 07/13 10:17兩個矮刷子..怕

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Qorqios 07/13 10:17哦[email protected]@ 你尼也知道交易大盤商

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FAYeeeeeeee 07/13 10:17都簽Brunson了

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brewski 07/13 10:17JB+米丘這後場防守不行吧，雖然RJB天花板也不高

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angelne 07/13 10:17安吉又要開秀了嗎

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kidofking 07/13 10:18樓下是總管會換嗎

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sustainer12307/13 10:18這不就進攻強化版的米糠

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Y225 07/13 10:18RJB感覺就是一定要給，如果真的很想要

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rondoya 07/13 10:18兩個矮子準備被打爆

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jyekid 07/13 10:18當初尼克真該換莫雷包起碼有人能coverJB

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sustainer12307/13 10:18尼克裡面不是狗貝欸這後場保證被爽虐

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JayFans0610 07/13 10:18雖然Mitchell是更好的球員，但後場搭檔如果是Brunso

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JayFans0610 07/13 10:18n，Barrett還是比Mitchell適合一點吧

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jyekid 07/13 10:18芭樂特一定要出的

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sustainer12307/13 10:19不對米丘回家就會認真守備了呵呵在小城市才不守

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ppo7741 07/13 10:19傻了嗎

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Bigcookie2 07/13 10:20目前RJB進步也有限..進攻很不穩定

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spree1 07/13 10:20這兩個加起來要奪冠？傻了？

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Bigcookie2 07/13 10:20但防守的確不會像米邱一樣爛就是了

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jyekid 07/13 10:20其實米丘進聯盟前記得是防守魔人結果沒想到練成醬

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Bigcookie2 07/13 10:21JB RJB Randle打看看吧

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ooxxman 07/13 10:21RJB換個環境也好，在尼克不大穩定

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azlbf 07/13 10:21尼克現在不賭也要面臨RJB續約問題

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Bigcookie2 07/13 10:21有JB 看看Randle跟RJB進攻會不會穩定點

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Bigcookie2 07/13 10:22不然沒控衛看兩個R那邊打鐵...

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jyekid 07/13 10:22他也不太可能頂薪吧

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brewski 07/13 10:23不如放RJB練Reddish

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otaku690 07/13 10:25看RJB打球也很骰

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iZinger 07/13 10:26RJB防守已經是plus了，不用跟Mitchell比

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knicks8888 07/13 10:27看到放RJB練Reddish的推文真的是笑掉大牙耶

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artreborn 07/13 10:29RJB上季進攻變不穩，本來以為要大進化，卻反而撞牆

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iZinger 07/13 10:2919梯前五只有Hunter和他是能主防對手主力的

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onionandy 07/13 10:29自選的留一個吧不然都剩外來種

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danson555 07/13 10:29奪冠基石….

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xo45527788 07/13 10:30JB+米秋後場防守行嗎...

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efbnm753 07/13 10:31Rjb上季慘是因為紅茶擺爛吧突然被迫當一哥

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gn00152097 07/13 10:31RJB會是個優質先發但應該很難成長到全明星的等級

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leo19841010 07/13 10:31蠢了才會丟少主去換米丘，尼克不缺SG，安吉要價太

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leo19841010 07/13 10:31高不會成交

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Mentha 07/13 10:31側翼工作太多了，能不能成為完全體跟上限在哪都難說

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brewski 07/13 10:32你要不要去看牙醫

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onionandy 07/13 10:32尼克應該看看隔壁籃網自家出品全換掉的下場

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azlbf 07/13 10:32場均10分先發鎖也很強了

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gn00152097 07/13 10:33但我覺得尼克應該要用現在陣容打一季試試

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efbnm753 07/13 10:33我是覺得才第三季而且才22歲 Rjb的態度一直也都蠻

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efbnm753 07/13 10:33好的機體也不錯摸到all star我覺得不是問題但說

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efbnm753 07/13 10:33要能到聯盟前十等級感覺不太可能

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ginopun1047707/13 10:34rjb明明就不錯他不是整隊最能打的嗎

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weather12 07/13 10:34感覺RJB不是不能換，但米丘真的…

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iZinger 07/13 10:35他進攻上限沒有Ja和Garland好，但他在爭冠球隊會是

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iZinger 07/13 10:35比這兩位還好搭配的主力

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iZinger 07/13 10:35因爲攻防兩端更均衡

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gn00152097 07/13 10:36他就很適合當3當家的類型

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knicks8888 07/13 10:39不用我在看笑話

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anderson197907/13 10:39簽來都好談

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Yofu 07/13 10:39用不穩的RJB 換爆發力強的米榭爾蠻好的

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teren 07/13 10:39米丘要叫JB大哥季後賽被完全打爆

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TDKnight 07/13 10:41米邱跟JB 這後場防守會爆吧

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JayFans0610 07/13 10:43反正我是覺得在已經簽了Brunson的情況下，留Barrett

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JayFans0610 07/13 10:43 會比去換Mitchell適合，不如把籌碼拿去補其他位置

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sa13961387 07/13 10:43尼克換來全明星有好下場過嗎？

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sa13961387 07/13 10:44今天如果KD這種聯盟前五就算了

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Allencash 07/13 10:45RJB天花板比較高，三分丘已定型

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shaq129 07/13 10:47要組雙矮後衛喔尼克真的是盤子

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DPP48 07/13 10:48要出RJB換米丘還不如當初直接用選秀籤換DJM

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kevinduh4 07/13 10:50米丘+JB 有夠矮

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sw9294 07/13 10:54米丘感覺就這樣了,RJB還沒到頂點

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qoqocat 07/13 10:57兩個矮子手牽手被對手打點

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ishay 07/13 11:01尼克出到RJB要不要乾脆問KD看看

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dutch14 07/13 11:02雙矮後衛？我以為在看拓荒者

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CoachKuester07/13 11:04絕對是留RJB

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star1234 07/13 11:05盤子價,大家快來看

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Bronze5god 07/13 11:11米邱是A級球星 RJB就是A-而已前者薪資30M*(3+1)y

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Bronze5god 07/13 11:12後者的新秀紅利也剩最後一年了所以其實差不多

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SmallGG3cm 07/13 11:14那要換來米丘幹嘛？我是覺得米丘跟尼克雙方都不夠強

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SmallGG3cm 07/13 11:14到值得尼克梭哈

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Bronze5god 07/13 11:17Jazz看起來就是想打掉重建榨乾現有球星的價值吧

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Bronze5god 07/13 11:18但尼克如果是RJB換成米邱是會升級拉但也不會差太多

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SCLPAL 07/13 11:22他也去尼克的話,誰當老大lol?!

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stja 07/13 11:23

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lackofblack 07/13 11:25JB+米邱要奪冠是指G League?

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kingroy 07/13 11:26我是覺得米丘還能開發一點 RJB會愈來愈尷尬要是RJB

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kingroy 07/13 11:26養成樂觀的話尼克大概一定抱著不放加提前續約

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SmallGG3cm 07/13 11:28米丘+紅茶+JB三小頭？

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kingroy 07/13 11:29生涯前三季的米丘跟現在打完三季的RJB比落差不小

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rong0112 07/13 11:29這防守真的暴力..

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answermangtr07/13 11:36尼克真的要幹大事了嗎

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jack0727 07/13 11:37別急著換吧至少看原陣容打半季試試後場JB 雷丘防

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jack0727 07/13 11:37守是想直接open嗎？

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ck950643 07/13 11:386-1戰隊

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ss88812 07/13 11:42別吧每次滿手好牌都敗給過譽球星

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ss88812 07/13 11:42雷丘這種砍分仔退化速度都很快

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hijodedios3607/13 11:46米丘需要高一點的後場來cover防守雙矮是想步爵士

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hijodedios3607/13 11:46後塵?

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answertw 07/13 11:51RJB那麼鳥放進去沒差吧

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pages 07/13 11:53先發後場是JB+米丘也只有CAA+尼克幹得出來

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JerrySloan 07/13 11:56這個命中率... 寧願留著米邱亂射

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madeathmao 07/13 12:01這兩個基石怎麼疊起來還這麼矮啊

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tyrone0923 07/13 12:08JB加米邱，是要對手後衛每場都打出生涯新高喔

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sxzc 07/13 12:26老實說爵迷更想要RJB的情況是狗貝還在的時候把米丘

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sxzc 07/13 12:26賣掉得來的現在沒有狗貝了就等於重建然後換球員養

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sxzc 07/13 12:26而已

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aztom 07/13 12:28RJB以前很猛的，U19一人單挑美國隊誒

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kuaiphoto 07/13 12:28RJB真的別放

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linearppt 07/13 12:29看看東區前四，兩個矮後衛的後場可真是好主意呢

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nyk3 07/13 13:08本季我尼送走183公分的walker,迎來185公分的bronson

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nyk3 07/13 13:08,現打算再換185公分的mitchell來？

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tigerlolz 07/13 13:12這兩個人互換有差嗎沒防守進攻又偏骰

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Gakura 07/13 13:28JB+米丘+紅茶，尼克是不打算防守嗎

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Obama 07/13 13:47差別在米邱無傷痛可暴力砍分 RJB只是六神無主亂投

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Obama 07/13 13:48真要關鍵時刻當一哥米邱還是比RJB好

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Obama 07/13 13:49米邱防守也不至於太爛上季爛感覺是傷痛加心態

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Wavecloud 07/13 13:58明星潛力側翼換砍將型後衛…應該沒球隊這麼傻除非

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Wavecloud 07/13 13:58你是國王尼克之類XD

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firemm666 07/13 14:24換啊 RJB佑沒多強

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firemm666 07/13 14:28米丘在後衛中算會守的

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rokobomb00 07/13 14:57亂講

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MK47 07/13 15:17兩個矮子不就拓荒者2.0 衝個毛冠軍啊二輪差不多

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MK47 07/13 15:17頂天了

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semicoma 07/13 17:38我是覺得米丘頂得住大蘋果的壓力不是因為他紐約人

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semicoma 07/13 17:39而是他心態上頂得住這種人格特質放在NBA就是天賦了

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Obama 07/13 19:59兩個矮後衛，但側翼不矮吧，至少會比三重打四號好

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Obama 07/13 20:00尼克

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cupidysean 07/13 20:40RJB 千萬不要啊拜託了

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kenny851117 07/14 01:28拜託不要換 RJB的價值比雷丘好多了

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nyk3 07/14 08:28https://i.imgur.com/AVrdwZi.jpg

圖https://i.imgur.com/AVrdwZi.jpg?e=1667339131&s=gULaeq_PR9OBX21GcdwOTQ, 尼克若想交易米丘，RJB是必要之殤

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nyk3 07/14 08:29代價這麼高,傻子才會同意吧？

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alfonsosoria07/19 08:55上面那包可以換KD了吧

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