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整體 投手中
徐若熙 No.14 No.11
曾峻岳 No.23 No.15


速球 滑球 曲球 Command FV
徐若熙 55/60 45/55 45/45 40/50 40+
曾峻岳 60/60 45/60 30/40 40+


用ChatGPT翻譯的FG球探報告

Jo Hsi Hsu

Full Report

Tommy John surgery kept Hsu from pitching in 2022. When he returned very late in 2023, in time to pitch just 15.1 innings before the end of the season, his stuff was back, and that carried over into a totally healthy and productive 94.2 innings in 2024. Hsu was reaching back for 98 and sitting 95-96 at the very end ofthe 2024 season.

The athletic little righty and his drop-and-drive delivery generate uphill angle on that fastball, and Hsu's secondary stuff (especially his splitter) has continued to improve as he's gotten pro reps. He now looks like a nasty long reliever, and if he can sustain his stuff across another 50 innings or so, he'll have earned MLB starter projection.

His hard slider/cutter might end up being a better offering than his slow curveball relatively soon, and give him another above-average weapon. This is a very exciting young pitcher who might end up being posted to an NPB team for a year or two before he entertains MLB offers.


由於接受Tommy John手術,徐在2022年沒有投球,直到2023年底才重返賽場,並僅投了15.1局。

然而他的球威恢復了,並延續至2024年的第一個完全健康且高效的賽季,總計投了94.2局,在2024賽季末,徐的球速已經能達到98英里,穩定在95-96英里。

這位運動能力出色的右投手以他的drop-and-drive投球機制產生了強勁的上竄速球

而隨著他在職業棒球中的經驗累積,他的第二球種(特別是指叉球)進一步提升,他目前看起來像是一名極具威脅的長中繼投手,如果他能在未來再穩定投出50局左右的表現,就有機會被預測為MLB的先發投手

徐的滑球/卡特球可能很快會成為比他慢速曲球更好的武器,並為他增添另一個高於平均水準的球種

這是一位非常令人期待的年輕投手,他可能會先去日本職棒打幾年,再考慮接受MLB的邀約




Jyun-Yue Tseng

Full Report

Young reliever Jyun-Yue Tseng led the CPBL in strikeout rate among hurlers who threw at least 45 innings from 2022-24 and was the youngest member of Taiwan's 2023 World Baseball Classic team. He has a power fastball that peaks at 99 mph and sits 93-96 with flat angle created by his lack of height. At 5-foot-8, Tseng is short but he isn't small, and his lower body is incredibly strong and flexible, helping quell concerns about durability.

Conversely, Tseng enjoys the benefits of having a lower release height because he's so short, which helps the bat-missing shape of his fastball. The finish of his slurve is rather inconsistent, but it's possible a big league dev program could quickly improve that part of his game. He looks like a solid middle relieverby virtue of his fastball, and he has a chance to be a more impactful, higher-leverage contributor if an MLB team can improve his breaking ball.

Somewhat surprisingly, Tseng filed for international free agency after the 2023season, but he didn't end up leaving the CPBL. If that happens again soon, it is likely an NPB team will swoop in because Tseng is subject to MLB's amaeur bonus restrictions until he's played a few more years of pro ball. A shoulder injurykept him off the 2024 Taiwanese Premier12 roster, so it's perhaps more likely he ends up matriculating to a tougher league after 2025. He has impact relief potential.


年輕的後援投手曾峻岳在2022-2024年間的中華職棒賽季中,於至少投滿45局的投手中擁有最高的三振率,此外他還是2023年世界棒球經典賽中台灣隊最年輕的成員。

他的速球威力十足,最快可達99英里,穩定在93-96英里之間,由於身高僅5英尺8英寸(約173公分),曾的速球因為投球角度較平而展現獨特的優勢


儘管身材不高,曾的下半身力量極為強壯且靈活,減少了人們對他耐久度的擔憂,同時他的低放球點反而成為一個優勢,讓他的速球具有更強的揮空效果。


憑藉他的速球,他看起來像是一名穩定的中繼投手,如果能改進變化球,他還可能成為更高壓場面的關鍵後援戰力。


稍顯意外的是,曾在2023賽季後申請了海外自由球員資格,但最終並未離開中華職棒。

如果他近期再次申請,預計日本職棒(NPB)球隊會率先出手簽下他,因為他目前仍受到MLB國際業餘球員簽約金限制的影響,需再打幾年職棒才能符合條件。

他因肩傷缺席了2024年的世界棒球12強賽,因此較可能在2025年後進軍更高水準的聯賽。他具備成為高效後援投手的潛力



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※ 編輯: zxc906383 (1.162.9.93 臺灣), 01/12/2025 20:24:09

KyleBoros01/12 20:25速球滑球都60 好扯

a463623001/12 20:25若C的評價蠻不錯的

※ 編輯: zxc906383 (1.162.9.93 臺灣), 01/12/2025 20:26:44

mashmabo01/12 20:27NPB會出手簽曾? 存疑

WasJohnWall01/12 20:27FG很愛曾峻岳

Kaberman56901/12 20:31這兩個放一起比做啥...一個Ace,一個CP

Nick1235646401/12 20:33若熙厲害的是球種越來越多

blacksun01/12 20:41若 翻成JO好怪,翻RO不好嗎

RiceLover01/12 20:41評價長中繼 還沒到ace

Roy3401/12 20:45曾的直球丟高角度蠻好用的

wahaha88801/12 20:45曾的速球有這麼好啊?且一般不是說希望投的球要有角度

Roy3401/12 20:48曾的k/9養得蠻漂亮的

nsk01/12 20:48威妥瑪拼音的J發ㄖ的音

abcnelson65401/12 20:49NPB為啥要花大錢簽算洋中繼、比宋家豪成本高的台灣

abcnelson65401/12 20:49投手,票房?

EMANON23101/12 20:54徐的球種評價怎麼沒有那顆叉指變速

CrossroadMEI01/12 21:07ㄖ字頭用J開頭拼音就是威妥瑪特色之一 王柏融也是J

CrossroadMEI01/12 21:07ung 不是Zung

s652548001/12 21:07最好是…

CrossroadMEI01/12 21:07還有一堆C也是威妥瑪特色

AceClown01/12 21:08FG國際球員的球種給分只有評滑球系、曲球系跟變速球系,

AceClown01/12 21:08若C那顆歸類為指叉球所以沒有給分

CrossroadMEI01/12 21:09威妥瑪目前只用於台灣人名跟縣市名 算是台灣特色

cthjustin03001/12 21:09印象沒錯的話曾就是去年後援FIP最低的投手啊

s652548001/12 21:11別人來看完就沒消沒息了

EMANON23101/12 21:11我以為那顆算變速

seedroy01/12 21:13曾不知道還有沒有辦法旅外

cool841801/12 21:15若C全力催一局感覺比曾強很多耶

bb1018112801/12 21:16曾的速球本來就top 可以壓制高階打者

bb1018112801/12 21:17他WBC可以跟古巴中心打線拼直球

Kaberman56901/12 21:17曾控球問題在日本會遇到很大的挑戰

maruka01/12 21:17希望若熙提出海外FA時能有美職球隊直接給大聯盟合約,想看

maruka01/12 21:17他大聯盟能投到什麼程度

mike20080101/12 21:17可是曾的command好低,那代表他的速球根本控不住

Kaberman56901/12 21:18速球評價高,但前提是控的準啊

mike20080101/12 21:18感覺就看狀態,狀態不好一場失個好幾分都有可能

DukeGD66601/12 21:18美職要給大聯盟合約也要若熙滿25歲

Kaberman56901/12 21:18控不好的話遇到高階打者會很辛苦

WasJohnWall01/12 21:1994賣+只有一顆堪用滑球的右手牛是美國最不缺的吧

arexne01/12 21:19曾因為他這種身高有這種速球的人太少 反而變成另一種不同

arexne01/12 21:19的特色

DukeGD66601/12 21:19他明年11月滿25歲,似乎也不是沒機會,前提是健康整季

WasJohnWall01/12 21:20然後控球問題在那

DukeGD66601/12 21:21如果美國要把若熙當RP買好像也不是不行?

※ 編輯: zxc906383 (1.162.9.93 臺灣), 01/12/2025 21:21:41

AceClown01/12 21:23曾峻岳也才23歲,就FG覺得美國人修的好他的控球,有進步

AceClown01/12 21:23的空間啊

nacl049701/12 21:24若熙的型態去美國大概就是中繼投手,如果拉長局數能力加

nacl049701/12 21:24上變化球進去有機會更好

WasJohnWall01/12 21:25徐若熙去年畢竟有大幅進步到有辦法被買去當RP開的條

WasJohnWall01/12 21:25

GakkiMyWife01/12 21:25徐的staff一定是大聯盟級的

bb1018112801/12 21:27曾速球轉數高 搭配身高 球很像往上竄

shiejj01/12 21:39若熙以他的傷病史,當SP還是對他比較好

shiejj01/12 21:41曾的控球和球種會是他出國的限制

Kaberman56901/12 21:48曾要修好沒這麼簡單,還有身高限制也改不了

Kaberman56901/12 21:49不確定因素+先天限制,價格很難高到哪去

WasJohnWall01/12 21:52徐覺得OK,但曾那個比較適合留國內挑戰後援紀錄吧

poor14701/12 21:58修好是啥意思 曾的控球啥時壞了? 本來就很吃狀況 好的

poor14701/12 21:58時候打者都被空振

qpb852qpb74201/12 22:01高A聯盟整天幻想要直接輸出MLB ,願意蹲個3A再拼上

qpb852qpb74201/12 22:01去還比較實際

jameswater01/12 22:02command 30/40... 好慘

muching01/12 22:06stuff

s22shadowl01/12 22:25曾去年給人的印象是靠硬塞進去欺負弱打者揮不到他的

s22shadowl01/12 22:25速球

s652548001/12 22:30反正有一個 人家來看一看就句點了

s652548001/12 22:30在那邊什麼壓制古巴

s652548001/12 22:31你也看一下當時的場面是什麼

k3353601/12 22:36曾球速落後時不一定是丟不進去 而是丟到太好打的位置

k3353601/12 22:36所以給command差 很合理

jumperman01/12 22:51若C去年下半季的時候158就不知道丟幾顆去了..曾有沒有

jumperman01/12 22:51三顆??且曾還是後援投手,直球的速差真的蠻大的~~

Arens556601/12 23:06看到FV40就知道中職才是歸宿了

HWtseng01/12 23:15曾的速球在這個聯盟,確實是頂尖。

bxxl01/12 23:28給分應該是根據大聯盟的標準吧?