Re: [閒聊] 牛頓的研究真的有抄襲其他人的成果嗎?
※ 引述《yyes5210 (格式化D曹)》之銘言:
: 推 RockZelda: 除了萊布尼茲,虎克和牛頓也是恩怨不少呢 07/05 17:36: 推 ken1990710: 萬有引力是抄虎克的啊 07/05 18:10: → yuizero: 說抄襲的是虎克。問題是虎克很多理論都做一半就放置沒寫 07/05 18:11: → yuizero: 成理論 連數學式都沒寫出來。等別人寫出來才跳出來說我 07/05 18:11: → yuizero: 很多年早就想出來 07/05 18:11: → yuizero: 想是想出來。問題是數學式和成果是別人完成的啊 07/05 18:11: → ken1990710: 原本牛頓的萬有引力方程是錯的,被虎克打臉到臉很腫 07/05 18:11我剛剛去看了一下wiki上面這段的歷史
克卜勒在 1609~1619 之間發布了他的三個行星運動定律
Link: https://bit.ly/3uoXjwW
接著關於引力反比於距離平方的部分:
1679~1680 的時候虎克寫過文件給牛頓說
"supposition ... that the Attraction always is in a duplicate proportion to
the Distance from the Center Reciprocall, and Consequently that the Velocity
will be in a subduplicate proportion to the Attraction and Consequently as
Kepler Supposes Reciprocall to the Distance."
虎克在這文件裡面認為
(1) 行星受到太陽的引力大小與距離平方成反比 -> F 正比於 1/r^2
(2) 行星速度正比於引力大小的平方根 -> v 正比於 √F
不管虎克是想到這些,這結果對於速度的想像是錯的,
所以他這個敘述跟克卜勒的定律也不會相符
簡單的說,虎克並沒有「引力大小與距離平方成反比」的科學成果
牛頓則是在 1686 打槍了虎克宣稱"引力大小與距離平方成反比是他的功勞"的講法
至少從下面的這段的證據來看:
In regard to evidence that still survives of the earlier history, manuscriptswritten by Newton in the 1660s show that Newton himself had, by 1669, arrivedat proofs that in a circular case of planetary motion, "endeavour to recede"
(what was later called centrifugal force) had an inverse-square relation withdistance from the center
牛頓在 1669 前的手稿就有寫到,
當行星運動是圓形的時候,引力的大小與距離平方成反比
當然,不用特別說明,
牛頓從「引力的大小與距離平方成反比」可以得出克卜勒的那三條行星定律
而從下面這段來看
At the same time (according to Edmond Halley's contemporary report) Hooke
agreed that "the Demonstration of the Curves generated thereby" was wholly
Newton's.
如果哈雷沒有唬爛,那虎克承認證明跟軌道有關的工作都是牛頓做的
所以說牛頓提出萬有引力定律完全沒有問題啊
紀錄上也只有他有科學成果
要做到這成果,在數學水準在當代要相當強悍,虎克怎麼看都不像吧?
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牛頓的數學威到跨海匿名解題對方都知道是誰
畢竟大家比較喜歡看農場文
我記得那題出題人他自己花了兩週才解出來 然後牛頓熬了
一夜就解出來 還很秋的在信末補上一個PS:我不喜歡被別
國的人質疑我的數學能力
虎克當時應該是第一個有對向心力概念的人
虎克雖然數學不好,但他直覺很準
別當全世界科學家都白癡...
虎克不就是在英國皇家學院跟牛頓爭論光是一種波動還是
粒子,最後才發現光其實是波粒二象性
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