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Re: [爆卦] 伊斯蘭協會針對塔綠班事件回應

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aure0914
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時間推噓 8 推:10 噓:2 →:25

出於好奇去看了一下這個協會的官網

發現這個協會的反同立場相當堅定

不但認為同性戀就是有病

而且痛恨肛交

「台灣社會某部分人或許因為過去的創傷而走上偏離的道路,但他們不願尋求協助以徹底解
決自己過去創傷所遺留下來的陰影與傷口,反而試著強迫將整個台灣社會導向他們所走的偏狹之路,他們解決問題的方式就是將問題的本身合理化,他們治療病症的方式是說服大家這個疾病不是病。

A part of Taiwan society is astray maybe because of past trauma, yet instead of seeking help to resolve their traumas, they are trying to steer all the Taiwan society into their own way, and to solve the problems by justifying the problems, to cure the disease by accepting that it is not a disease.?

從亞當與夏娃開始,同性戀就不是正常的事情,而且永遠都不會在大地上被正常化。
Homosexuality had been a wrong thing since Adam and Eve, and it will never become a normal thing on earth.


阿拉在古蘭經第49章第13節說:「人們啊!我們確實已將你們創造成男性和女性,而且讓你們分成不同種族與部落,使你們能認識彼此。」

Allah says in Chapter 49 Verse 13, “O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another.”

很清楚, 阿拉所創造的人類只有男性和女性之分,沒有第三種性別。因此,任誰說他自己是第三性,我們都不應該接受,而是將之視為一種病症,需要整個社會一起來解決這個問題,試著讓那些心中或腦中有這種糾結的人認清事實、化解創傷。
It is so clear that the creation of Allah for the mankind is only male and female, so there is no third gender. Therefore whoever claim that they are a third gender, we should reject it and just consider it a disease that the whole society is in charge of working closely with this issue and try to help those who have this issue in their hearts and minds.


伊斯蘭嚴禁肛交,古蘭經明確指出犯此重罪者必受到重罰, 阿拉在古蘭經第11章第82至83節說:「所以當我的命令一到,整個城市上下顛倒地翻了過來,燃火的岩石從天而降打在他們上面,而且每顆石頭上面都註記著每個人的名字,每顆火石不偏不倚打在上面註記名字的這個人身上, 阿拉的刑罰輕而易舉就能降臨在作惡者的身上。」這二節經文在講述先知魯特的故事,他的族人以肛交為樂,最後除了那些試著將這些偏斜者引回正路者和以行動或言語反對這項罪刑者獲救以外,其他無論是直接造此罪者或是支持、接受或對此重罪悶不吭聲者都無法逃離被火石擊打且整片土地翻覆的刑罰。

Sodomy in Islam is prohibited and the punishment for those who commit this crime is clear inuran, Allah says in Chapter 11 Verses 82-83, “So when Our com
mand came, We made the city upside down and rained upon them firing stones, which were marked with names from your Lord. And Allah's punishment is very easy to reach those wrongdoers.” This is about the story of Lut, whose people were committing sodomy, and all the sinners and those who supported, accepted, or kept silent toward this sin were ended up in total destruction, while those who tried to guide them to the right path or those who disagreed with them in action or in words were saved from this punishment.

對於肛交之罪,這就是非常明確的刑罰,而且不只肛交者會受到刑罰,那些支持的人以及沒有犯此罪卻悶不吭聲且視若無睹的人,也會受到同樣的刑罰。

This is a clear punishment for those who commit this crime and also for thosewho accepts this to happen, moreover, it is for those who do not at least announce that they do not accept it to happen.

親愛的穆斯林兄弟姊妹們:

Dear brothers and sisters,

我們在此呼籲你們,大家都身在台灣,無論你們過去和現在是否支持我們的想法與做法,我們都應該前嫌盡釋地團結起來為這項議題努力。

This is a call for all of you in all of Taiwan regardless who agrees on our ideas and who do not, regardless who is supporting us or not, this is an issue that we all need to forget about all other disagreements between us and work together on this issue.

這是我們應盡的義務,我們必須站出來發聲,面對那些要將同性婚姻與多元成家合法化的人的面前大聲說不,否則一旦這些法案在台灣三讀通過,讓台灣成為支持這種重罪的地方,我們都會在 阿拉的懲罰名單裡。

It is a responsibility on our shoulders and we need to stand up and say NO infront of those who are asking for passing the law of legalizing same-sex marriage and multiple-person marriage in Taiwan. Otherwise, we will all be included in the punishment from Allah if this law passes and if Taiwan becomes a landof supporting such big sin to happen.

不要說我們是社會中的少數,不要說這些不關我們的事,不要說這沒有牽涉到我們,不要說我們的生活中沒有碰到這種問題,所以我們不須挺身而出,要知道, 阿拉在古蘭經一再告誡我們,要我們行善止惡,這並不單指穆斯林社群而已,而是涵蓋我們居住的地方,即使這裡不是穆斯林國家也一樣。
Do not say we are minority, do not say we are not involved, do not say it is not our business, do not say in our society we do not have this problem, so weneed not to stand up. In many verses inuran, Allah is ordering us to enjoin
good deeds and forbid bad deeds, and this is not only in our society, it is in the place where we live no matter it is a Muslim country or not.

要記得 阿拉在第16章第90節說:「 阿拉的確命令我們要行使正義、善行和接濟親屬,且禁止違反道德之事、惡事和壓迫, 祂如此警告你們,或許可以讓你們警醒。」
And remember always that Allah says in Chapter 16 Verse 90, “Indeed, Allah orders justice, good conduct, and giving to relatives, and forbids immorality, bad conduct, and oppression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded.”

所有清真寺都應該涉入這項議題,所有教長都應該盡速行動,所有領導人和決策者都應該公開發言,台灣所有穆斯林都要站出來說不。

All mosques should be involved, all Imams should act fast, all leaders and decision makers should speak out, and all Muslims in Taiwan should stand up and say NO to this issue.

我們根據伊斯蘭教義所提出的這些觀點並非為了要提高社會中的對立,也並非歧視或排斥那些支持立法的人,而是根據大自然的法則、人性的本質與長久以來的社會問題,呼籲大家從根本認清這些存在社會中問題的本質,以智慧從根本解決問題而不是去改變整的社會去適應這些存在的問題。

We are raising this issue according to the teachings of Islam neither to enhance the oppositions in the society, or to discriminate or reject those who support these laws to be legalized, but to call for your attention according to the law of Nature, the essence of humanity, and the long existing social problems to recognize the nature of the problems existing in the society and to solve the problems wisely from the root instead of changing the whole society to adapt to these problems.

最後,大家要知道,伊斯蘭沒有任何禁忌的問題,所有問題都有解決之道、所有問題都有答案,任何人需要我們提供更多這方面的知識與訊息,以更了解 阿拉對這項議題的律法和規定以及造物主對整個宇宙的規範,隨時歡迎與我們聯繫。

Finally! Everyone should know that in Islam we have solutions for everything and every issue, and there is no prohibited question nor question without answer in Islam. So for those who need our help based on the rules and laws of Allah regarding this issue, we are ready to offer the answers to all the questions based on Islam and the law of the Creator of the whole universe.」

所以我就在想

PTT之所以會被這個協會點名的原因

可能不是跟塔綠班有關

而是因為這裡充斥著跟肛交有關的推文

才會被盯上吧

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loserloser 08/28 00:30PTT不是反甲大本營?

※ 編輯: aure0914 (49.216.63.187 臺灣), 08/28/2021 00:30:50

gankgf 08/28 00:30亂碼一堆

aa9510883 08/28 00:31 窇拉教導我們生

DarkHolbach 08/28 00:32仇同性戀成這樣,然後要別人不要抹

DarkHolbach 08/28 00:32黑他們?沒有抹黑,本來就黑了

Poke5566 08/28 00:32我都不敢回伊斯蘭協會的文,因為他們真

※ 編輯: aure0914 (49.216.63.187 臺灣), 08/28/2021 00:33:51

Poke5566 08/28 00:32的話人肉阿花拉瓜

nowitzki0207 08/28 00:33仇同哈哈,這好像差不多

DarkHolbach 08/28 00:33大自然的法則?他們大概不知道自然

DarkHolbach 08/28 00:33界多少生物搞同性戀

DarkHolbach 08/28 00:34不過也是啦,伊斯蘭教近代科學就落

DarkHolbach 08/28 00:34

DarkHolbach 08/28 00:35支持肛交刑罰還真是恐怖,要是他們

DarkHolbach 08/28 00:35當政不知道會怎樣

slimak 08/28 00:38跟八卦版一樣討厭甲甲

nayaya 08/28 00:38伊斯蘭ㄎㄎ

limite12 08/28 00:40支那國也反同

jarrodqq896 08/28 00:41結果塔利班一堆在玩男童的 科科

hsshkisskiss 08/28 00:42跟劉宇說啊,嚴禁肛交耶

gfabbh 08/28 00:43反對同性戀,這是基督教與伊斯蘭少數共識

gfabbh 08/28 00:43

gfabbh 08/28 00:44畢竟宗教需要人口才能存續。

jarrodqq896 08/28 00:45保守派基督天主伊斯蘭都一樣啊 禁止

jarrodqq896 08/28 00:45同性戀但孌童不算 我是覺得很呵呵啦

jarrodqq896 08/28 00:45 孌童明明更噁爛

DarkHolbach 08/28 00:45伊斯蘭就強迫中獎啊,你爸是穆斯林

DarkHolbach 08/28 00:45你就要當一輩子穆斯林

DarkHolbach 08/28 00:45想要離開還不行

Bastain 08/28 00:48搞不好是八卦版盟友耶

SamuelLuo 08/28 01:03偽協會想要代表全台灣穆斯林,呵呵

SamuelLuo 08/28 01:03就是一個沒人關注的極端組織,應該納入

SamuelLuo 08/28 01:03國安局監控名單,已經對人權造成危害

AustinRivers 08/28 01:11原來如此

cowboyz1105 08/28 01:57反觀愛肛交的817塔綠班聖蟑士

justice0926 08/28 03:40八卦同路人

mikamikan 08/28 09:19有趣的就在這個協會非常的政治化 但是

mikamikan 08/28 09:19跟中國回教協會比起來 似乎又沒人鳥