[外絮] Fischer大量乳摸
作者: Jake Fischer
2023 NBA free agency: With John Collins trade, forwards dominating early
discussions
2023NBA自由市場:John Collins交易案之後,前鋒們出現在眾多早期討論中
The stretch between last Thursday’s NBA draft and the start of free agency
this Friday night promised to bring trade activity. Sure enough, the Utah
Jazz and Atlanta Hawks struck a deal to bring John Collins to Salt Lake City,league sources told Yahoo Sports, ending almost a year’s worth of dialogue
between the two front offices that centered around Collins trade scenarios.
More movement seems to be on the horizon. The Hawks have also been active in
conversations about trade opportunities for De’Andre Hunter, while other
transactions, like the Minnesota Timberwolves extending Naz Reid to the tune
of three years, $42 million, will have ongoing ripple effects across the
offseason landscape.
Collins’ trade to Utah is the latest in a recent string of cost-conscious
deals around the NBA. The Warriors’ swap of Jordan Poole for Chris Paul was
perhaps the most notable deal of draft day, when the Mavericks and Kings alsooffloaded Dāvis Bertāns and Richaun Holmes, respectively. Atlanta was
attempting various avenues to finally move the three seasons left of Collins
’ five-year, $125 million deal all throughout the predraft process, sources
said. It once seemed like the Mavericks and Hawks would be perfect trade
partners, but the two teams never found an agreement — including striking
out on Clint Capela concepts, sources said — that could have involved the
Nos. 10 and 15 picks changing hands in various outcomes.
上周四的NBA選秀以及即將在星期五晚間開始的自由市場帶來了一些受預期的交易活動。毫不意外的,猶他爵士與亞特蘭大老鷹達成了一筆交易。老鷹將John Collins送至鹽湖城並結束了這一年來圍繞Collins交易方案的對話。老鷹也相當積極的在尋求交易掉De'AndreHunter的機會,而明尼蘇達灰狼隊同時將Naz Reid以3年42M的價碼續約之後將會帶來連鎖效應並影響休賽季的情勢。
Collins被交易到猶他是NBA這一系列減輕支出操作的最新交易範例。勇士隊將Jordan
Poole交易走換回Chris Paul或許是選秀日最受矚目的交易案,同時獨行俠與國王也擺脫掉了Davis Bertans與Richaun Holmes。雖然老鷹隊在選秀過程中一直試圖擺脫掉John
Collins 5年125M合約的剩餘3年並嘗試了各種途徑。曾經獨行俠與老鷹被認為是完美的交易夥伴,但這兩隊從未達成協議,這之中就包含了Clint Capela的交易方案,該方案可能涉及了第10與第15順位的各種交易結果。
Atlanta’s talks with Utah were also well known around the league. The Hawks
and Jazz have discussed Collins trades dating back to the aftermath of Utah
dealing Rudy Gobert and Donovan Mitchell, and the Jazz holding the Nos. 9 and16 picks presented other logical opportunities for the Hawks. Atlanta,
though, couldn’t use Collins to move up in the draft. That’s the nature of
the NBA’s marketplace under the new collective bargaining agreement, with
player salaries slated to keep rising following the league’s next television
contract in 2025. Both the Hawks and Jazz, league sources told Yahoo Sports,
left draft night with the understanding that a Collins deal could still come
to fruition before the start of free agency. It took Rudy Gay to opt into his$6.4 million player option Monday to complete the transaction, but Collins isat last a member of the Jazz. We’ll see if any of Atlanta’s other loose
threads of trade talks, like the Hawks’ draft week negotiations with the
Pistons and Pacers regarding Hunter, can regain momentum.
How the rest of this offseason unfolds always occurs in some form of
trickle-down effect. Utah, for example, had been planning to target forwards
on the market, sources said, and acquiring Collins takes a potential landing
spot off the board for someone like Kyle Kuzma — one of the top free-agent
forwards said to be searching for upward of $30 million in average annual
salary. The Jazz only landed Collins, mind you, after Utah lost out on a
chance to sign a primary target in free agency. As Marc Stein first reported
on Substack, the Jazz were expected to become expensive bidders for Kristaps
Porzingis until the Wizards managed to pull off a three-team trade with the
Celtics and Grizzlies that sent Porzingis to Boston. The Celtics will now
have the chance to extend Porzingis for two more years, which brings Grant
Williams’ status in Boston further into question.
老鷹與爵士之間的交易互動一直都廣為聯盟所知。老鷹與爵士自從Rudy Gobert與DonovanMitchell的交易案之後就一直討論交易Collins的可能性,而爵士擁有著第9與第16順位的選秀權提供老鷹足夠的誘因。然而,老鷹無法利用Collins在選秀會中取得順位的提升。這就是即使在2025年球員薪資上限在新的轉播合約預計增加的情況下,新的勞資協議展現出的自由市場環境。無論如何,老鷹與爵士在離開選秀會之後,在自由市場開市之前,知道Collins交易案都還有實現的可能性。這筆交易案最終需要Rudy Gay執行他的6.4M球員選項,而Collins最終仍來到了鹽湖城。這使我們從這筆交易案中看到其他交易案的線索,像是老鷹在選秀會該週與溜馬和活塞有關於De'Andre Hunter的談判可能能重新獲得一些動能。
休賽季的市場發展總是以某種形式的連鎖反應實現。例如,原本猶他爵士想要尋求前鋒的補強,Collins的交易案使得他們追尋如Kyle Kuzma這名最佳自由球員前鋒的潛在可能減少了。據說他正在尋求一份均薪超過30M的合約。值得注意的是,爵士交易來Collins是在他們失去了他們自由市場的主要目標之一--Kristaps Porzingis之後。爵士在巫師與灰熊和賽爾提克談成三方交易並將Porzingis送至波士頓之前原本被認為是願意為他花大錢的球隊之一。賽爾提克現在能與Prozingis續約2年並給Grant Williams的續約狀態打上了問號。
Williams is another power forward who’s been linked to Utah before he
reaches restricted free agency, further illustrating how interconnected the
offseason’s web of scenarios is. Utah can still create upward of $28 million
in room this summer, but that would require letting veteran scorer Jordan
Clarkson walk, and the Jazz mainstay has long been considered a favorite of
Utah team owner Ryan Smith. Even if the Jazz keep that ample amount of cap
space, it’s difficult to foresee another frontcourt piece looking to join
Utah's rotation that’s already jammed with All-Star Lauri Markkanen,
second-year center Walker Kessler, Collins and the No. 9 pick in Taylor
Hendricks. Maybe that money is still enough to scare away the Lakers with a
massive offer sheet for Austin Reaves.
Reaves still appears to be an option for the Rockets, although word has only
grown in league circles about Houston’s chances of prying veteran point
guard Fred VanVleet from Toronto. While staying with the Raptors still soundslike it’s on the table for both parties, Houston is prepared to offer
VanVleet a very competitive deal, while all those whispers about a James
Harden return have noticeably decreased in recent weeks. The Rockets, sourcessaid, are considering short-term, high-salary contracts in order to land
top-target free agents with their $61 million in cap space. It would take a
maximum contract to ultimately lure VanVleet from Toronto, sources said,
which would top out at two-years, $80 million. Dillon Brooks continues to be
mentioned by league personnel as the top wing on the Rockets’ radar, in
addition to Brook Lopez ranking as Houston’s primary big man option. Keep an
eye on the Rockets possibly trading bouncy forward K.J. Martin to create
further financial flexibility. The Rockets have held an increasing number of
trade calls on Martin with several teams since the NBA draft, sources told
Yahoo Sports. Atlanta, Phoenix and Brooklyn have been mentioned as Martin
suitors dating back to the February trade deadline.
Williams是另一名猶他在他成為受限制自由球員之前有扯上關係的強力前鋒。這也說明了這個市場是如此的一個連鎖網。爵士今年夏天仍能生出28M的薪資空間,然而這將會需要將老闆Ryan Smith最喜歡的球員老將得分手Jordan Clarkson清掉。即使爵士保留了如此寬闊的薪資空間,很難預期他們還會在擁擠的前場輪替空間再增添一名輪替球員(Markkanen,Kessler, Collins與今年第9順位的Hendricks)。不過這筆錢也許足以開出能嚇走湖人的大合約來簽下Austin Reaves。
雖然聯盟中都在流傳火箭成功自多倫多挖角VanVleet這名成功控衛衛的消息,Reaves似乎仍然是火箭的一名選擇。雖然VanVleet仍有可能留在暴龍隊,但火箭準備向VanVleet提供非常有競爭力的合約。而這幾周Harden回火箭的傳聞也顯著的減少。火箭正在準備高薪的短合約以利用他們的61M薪資空間來吸引頂級自由球員。如果要從多倫多挖走VanVleet,火箭可能要準備一份頂薪合約,而上限可能是2年80M。Dillon Brooks也持續被聯盟消息人士提及為火箭雷達中的頭號側翼目標。此外,Brook Lopez也被排在火箭的主要長人選項。值得注意的是,火箭可能會交易掉跳跳人KJ Martin以創造財務上的彈性。火箭在選秀夜之後已經接到越來越多關於Martin交易的電話。老鷹、太陽與籃網在二月的交易大限時都是
Martin的追求者。
The other key forward spots in free agency will be Indiana and Detroit, whichcould both disappear depending on what happens with the aforementioned Huntertrade. The Pacers, sources said, are also a strong contender to sign HarrisonBarnes from the Sacramento Kings. Barnes had a close relationship with
All-Star guard Tyrese Haliburton during their overlapping tenure in Northern
California, and Barnes has further support from Indiana head coach Rick
Carlisle dating back to shared days with the Mavericks. Signing Barnes could
hurt other leading Indiana targets, such as Williams and Heat swingman Max
Strus, sources said, who could also both be in play for Orlando and Detroit,
depending on what the Pistons achieve. The rumblings of Detroit and former
Suns coach Monty Williams throwing a massive offer sheet at Nets sharpshooterCam Johnson, who reached the 2021 NBA Finals under Williams’ stewardship,
have certainly gained steam around the league. Although the Nets are expectedto match any practical offer for Johnson, and rival executives are prepared
for Brooklyn to look at further cost-saving trades in the aftermath of a
potential pricey new deal for Johnson.
Barnes’ likely departure from Sacramento, coupled with the Kings creating
roughly $35 million in cap space following the draft night trade of Holmes
and the No. 24 pick to Dallas, has rival front offices wondering what big
swing the Kings are planning in free agency. Outright selling a first-round
pick for savings, even in this economy, left many league personnel of the
mind that Sacramento has a specific move up its sleeve — not just
renegotiating and extending All-NBA center Domantas Sabonis for what’s
expected to be in the ballpark of four years, $120 million, sources said.
其他自由市場上要搶前鋒的關鍵球隊還有溜馬與活塞,而他們追求的動力隨時都有可能因為上面提到的Hunter交易案而消逝。溜馬正在強力追求國王前鋒Harrison Barnes。Barnes與溜馬全明星後衛Tyrese Haliburton於北加州建立了不解之緣,同時,Barnes在獨行俠時與溜馬總教練Rick Carlisle建立的關係更增強了招募的力道。如果溜馬成功簽下了Barnes,這將會傷害到其他溜馬的目標們,像是Williams與熱火搖擺人Max Strus。而Strus也是魔術與活塞的目標之一。而這全取決於活塞簽到了誰。活塞與前太陽總教練Monty
Williams對籃網射手Cam Johnson這名與Williams一起打進過NBA總決賽的球員投下巨額報價單的傳聞確實在聯盟中存在。儘管大家都認為籃網準備好匹配任何Johnson收到的價碼,有他隊的管理層已經準備好與籃網買下Johnson的巨額合約以減少他們的開支。
Barnes很有可能會離開沙加緬度,再加上國王在交易掉Holmes與第24順位至獨行俠之後創造了35M的薪資空間。這讓聯盟的一些高層正在猜測國王是否計畫在自由市場奮力一擊。僅僅是賣掉首輪籤省錢,在這個市場環境下,仍然讓許多聯盟管理層思考國王肯定有後續的策略--而非只是續約全明星中鋒Domantas Sabonis而已,而他被預期將能拿到4年120M的續約。
Sacramento going after Bucks All-Star guard Khris Middleton has been a
popular theory floated by league figures, but all signs are pointing to
Milwaukee and Middleton finalizing a new agreement once free agency begins
Friday after Middleton declined his 2023-24 player option last week. The
Kings and head coach Mike Brown stealing Draymond Green from the Warriors
would be quite the story, while Portland and Detroit are also expected to
make plays for Green, sources said. Although all indications continue to
point to Green returning to the franchise he’s won four championships with.
The name that’s gained plenty of momentum as a potential Sacramento target
is Kuzma, who once thrived down the road in Los Angeles and was nearly dealt
to the Kings in 2021 before the Lakers rerouted Kuzma to the Wizards instead
and acquired Russell Westbrook. Even with a new deal for Sabonis, plus the
Kings expectation to bring back versatile forward Trey Lyles, sources said,
Sacramento could have more than $25 million to play with in cap room,
according to salary projections provided to Yahoo Sports.
國王時常被與公鹿全明星後衛Khris Middleton連結在一起,但所有的跡象都顯示公鹿與Middleton將會在自由市場開示時達成一份新合約--在他上週拒絕行使23-24球員選項之後。國王與總教練Mike Brown從勇士偷走Draymond Green可能會是引人關注的故事,但拓荒者與活塞也被認為會追求Green。雖然所有線索都指向Green會回歸他取得四座冠軍的那個球團。
另一個被認為國王有興趣的名字是Kuzma這名曾在2021年被湖人交易至巫師換取Russell
Westbrook前差點就要去國王的前鋒。即使有Sabonis的新大約且國王預計會留下多功能前鋒Trey Lyles,國王仍然可能有超過25M的薪資空間。
A Sabonis extension would eliminate one of the top big men from next summer’
s free-agent class a year early. Reid, a key center in this summer’s market,
returning to Minnesota has opposing executives waiting to see if the
Timberwolves waive veteran wing Taurean Prince and his non-guaranteed $7.5
million salary, which would help Minnesota gain access to the full mid-level
exception. There have already been several names linked to the Wolves at thatsalary slot, and they’re all playmaking, bigger combo guards such as Bruce
Brown and Donte DiVincenzo. Both players are expected to have several optionsin that contract range, where there’s been growing noise among league
personnel about DiVincenzo joining former Villanova teammates Jalen Brunson
and Josh Hart in New York.
San Antonio was known to be waiting with a short-term contract for Reid and
the hope of pairing him with Victor Wembanyama in the frontcourt, sources
said. Now the Spurs will have to turn to other targets, perhaps someone like
Pelicans center Jonas Valancūnas, as New Orleans and San Antonio recently
did business on offloading Devonte’ Graham’s contract, and the Pelicans,
sources said, have since made Valanūnas available in search of more
mobile, rim-protecting big men. New Orleans made one call, sources said, to
Cleveland about obtaining Jarrett Allen. Another team that wanted to be in
the mix for Reid was Allen’s Cavaliers, sources said. Cleveland would have
needed a sign-and-trade avenue to acquire the talented big man. It remains tobe seen if the Cavs will continue searching for other frontcourt reserve
options behind Allen and Evan Mobley, or if the front office simply valued
Reid that highly.
Sabonis的續約提前使明年夏天自由市場最佳長人消失。Reid這名今年自由市場關鍵的長人回到明尼蘇達之後,許多聯盟管理層在觀望灰狼是否會裁掉老將側翼Taurean Prince的7.5M非保障合約,這樣灰狼才能使用他們的中產額度。有眾多名字都與灰狼的這個位置連結在了一起,其中就包含了雙能衛Bruce Brown與Donte DiVincenzo。這兩名後衛在這個薪資區間有眾多選項。而許多管理層認為DiVincenzo將會加入前維拉諾瓦大學隊友Jalen Brunson與Josh Hart所在的紐約尼克隊。
馬刺原本被認為是等著以短約簽下Reid並使之與Victor Wembanyama搭配的球隊。現在馬刺將要轉移至其他目標,或許像是鵜鶘中鋒Jonas Valancunas,就如同馬刺剛幫鵜鶘清掉了Devonte Grahams的合約一般。而鵜鶘,將Valancunas擺上了交易台並希望能取得更有活動力並擅長護框的長人。鵜鶘已經有給騎士打過電話並希望能交易來Jarrett Allen。另一個想要Reid的球隊正是Allen的騎士隊。騎士將需要透過簽換的手段才能取得這名有天賦的長人。騎士是否會繼續尋求Allen與Evan Mobley之後的前場替補選項仍需觀望,也許就是騎士管理層對Reid的評價非常高而已。
The last prime trade situation at this juncture remains in Washington, where
the Wizards are seeking draft compensation for both veteran guards Monte
Morris and Delon Wright, sources said. With Washington currently holding 16
players on guaranteed contracts, the Wizards are also expected to come to a
buyout agreement with Danilo Gallinari, acquired in the Porzingis trade,
clearing the way for the veteran scorer to find a home with a playoff
contender. Clippers guard Norman Powell is also considered available for
trade across the league, after his name was first mentioned in Los Angeles’
early efforts to acquire Paul from the Wizards.
華盛頓巫師是最後一個有交易傳聞的球隊。巫師正在尋求透過交易老將後衛Monte Morris與Delon Wright以取得選秀資產。巫師名單上現在有16名球員有保障約,而巫師也被預期會買斷透過Porzingis交易案買進的Danilo Gallinari來使這名老將得分手加入季後賽球隊。另外,在快艇與巫師試圖交易Chris Paul時被提及之後,快艇後衛Norman Powell也被聯盟視為可交易的標的之一。
心得:
Hunter與Capela的乳摸也有其他記者與Woj提到過 準確度應該很高(?
快艇一度想在KP交易案賣掉Powell的乳摸也有隨隊記者在這之後講出來
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先推再看
是說快艇好像很有望能留住龜龜
不知道欸 沒特別聽到他的消息
快艇相關推特都是記者跟球迷在筆戰XDDD
快艇都不太放消息給隨隊 東西很少 :(
@@居然ㄇ 不過就不期不待啦lol
火箭有五個年輕的後衛還要挖VV幹嘛
老鷹賣Collins還要賣Hunter? 是打算再次重建嗎
沒有 他們要清出空間續Murray+Bey+Okongwu
這三隻的新秀紅利也用完了
不繳稅的前提下一定要清掉Hunter跟Capela
火箭一堆後衛但沒有一個是合格控球
老鷹這樣就是洗不出紅花,所以只能賤賣一堆綠葉換
下一批洗對吧
灰狼不是要開Taurean Prince給中產
是要裁掉他 這樣才有薪資空間去簽下NAW跟替補控球
他也退追蹤灰狼IG了 應該很快就有消息了
只是給Reid 1300後 灰狼離繳稅上限太近了
就算14人開季 簽下NAW 可能只剩600萬左右了
阿對 那段應該是我翻錯 謝謝
感謝翻譯
爵士要怎開才能嚇死湖人啊?疑惑?
其實就只是在講那個額度夠開給Reaves開到滿而已
沒了
感謝翻譯
太多可能惹,誰不簽誰,誰誰就要簽,誰誰誰就要換策略
Fischer很不準阿 謠言很多
龜龜的部分,因為現在小中產額度縮水到只有5M,跟
快艇所能提供的非鳥3.8M已經相去不遠,今年少拿一
點換明年可能的早鳥合約也算合理
開得起全額中產的球隊應該不會找龜 龜也不見得有意
願
https://i.imgur.com/Kmwa12A.png 灰狼有意Morris
主要是Fischer這篇給的東西 我都有看到其他傳聞有說
所以我才會翻
不是全部啦 但就很多都是其他消息源也有共同的傳聞
灰狼要拿誰換?
灰狼沒什麼籌碼XD 頂多TP+底薪or新秀+次輪
Monte Morris各隊都想撿便宜
紮實好用
對阿 主要薪水也不貴 外線又不錯
Wolfson說巫師要選秀權 所以灰狼就撤了
火箭六千萬可以簽2~3個老將來帶新人啊
國王要嘴綠XD
基本上國王消息除了想續約小沙與帶回HB,還有給沙夏
開出報價外,其他都不算官方消息,目前還不知道國王
清出空間後目標到底是誰
推
Reid真搶手 灰狼便宜續約漂亮
火箭現在傳最多的就是鎖定范喬登 大洛 狄龍
第一段原文是寫JC5年125m,原po打錯成3年?
對 我打錯
Wolfson有去打聽確實對Brown 跟DiVincenzo有興趣
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[情報] 太陽跟小牛商討過Ayton交易The Phoenix Suns engaged in advanced discussions to trade former No. 1 overall pick Deandre Ayton to the Dallas Mavericks last week during the NBA Draft before the talks stalled, league sources say. The proposed deal, sources tell The Stein Line, would have sent Ayton to79
[情報] 老鷹馬刺討論Collins和Murray互換交易Atlanta and San Antonio have discussed a deal that would swap John Collins for Dejounte Murray, sources said. Spurs have told interests teams that moving Mu rray would require a "Jrue Holiday-like package." More league-wide trade notes @BR_NBA:76
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[情報] 賽提 巫師 快艇 正在醞釀三方交易Sources: Wizards, Celtics and Clippers are in strong talks on a trade that wou ld send Kristaps Porzingis to Boston, Marcus Morris and draft compensation to Washington and Malcolm Brogdon to Los Angeles. Sides are still working through details and Porzingis’ $36M player option.69
[外絮] 爵士與老鷹已圍繞Collins有過初步討論NBA Rumors: John Collins for Beasley, Vanderbilt Trade Discussed by Hawks, Jazz 乳摸:爵士跟老鷹已經對John Collins交換Beasley、Vanderbilt的交易進行討論 Atlanta Hawks forward John Collins has often been mentioned in trade rumors, and the Utah Jazz are the latest team to show interest, according to Jake Fischer o14
[外絮] 太陽對老鷹John Collins有興趣Hawks talk John Collins deals, Suns show interest as trade market begins to take shape: Shams’ Inside Pass 隨著交易市場開始 太陽隊有意追求John Collins (The Athletic 需付費) NBA teams are just about one month from a marquee date on the trade market
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