Re: [問卦] 烏俄戰爭最新情報（更新至20231128）

: 2.雖然F16已經已經抵達烏克蘭，但烏軍隊認為現有雷達系統探測距力達不到烏軍需求。烏克
: 蘭專家希望將雷達升級為AN/APG-83才能有效對抗俄空軍。
: AN/APG-83對空探測距離達120公里，對地探測距離達295公里，對隱身戰績也有一定探測能力
: 。其次AN/APG-83可加強F16多用途能力，可同時追蹤20個低慢小的無人機目標。

你這新聞是錯的

f16並未到達烏克蘭 而是羅馬尼亞

目前烏克蘭飛行員都還尚在訓練當中

另外其實前幾天還有個很有趣的消息

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/24645

Russia Offered to End War in 2022 If Ukraine Scrapped NATO Ambitions –
Zelensky Party Chief

David Arahamiya, leader of the President's “Servant of the People” party
and head of the Ukrainian delegation during last year’s talks with Russia,
has revealed that Russia proposed ending the war in spring 2022 on the
condition that Ukraine abandon its NATO aspirations and adopt a neutral
stance.

“They really hoped almost to the last that they would put the squeeze on us
to sign such an agreement so that we would take neutrality. It was the
biggest thing for them,” Arahamiya said in an interview with Ukrainian
journalist Natalia Moseychuk.

“They were ready to end the war if we took – as Finland once did –
neutrality and made commitments that we would not join NATO. This was the keypoint,” he added.

Speaking further and explaining Kyiv's refusal to accept the proposal,
Arakhamia said that it would require a constitutional change, given that
Ukraine’s Constitution states its intention to become a NATO member.

Additionally, he emphasized a lack of trust in the Russian position.

"There is no, and there was no, trust in the Russians that they would do it.
That could only be done if there were security guarantees."

Arahamiya clarified that signing such an agreement without guarantees would
have left Ukraine vulnerable to a second incursion.

“They would have come in more prepared, because they came in, in fact,
unprepared for such resistance,” Arakhamia said.

According to the lawmaker, while another round of talks was underway in
Istanbul, Boris Johnson unexpectedly came to Kyiv on April 9 and said that
Ukraine "shouldn't sign anything with them at all – and let's just fight."

大意就是

去年在土耳其談判的時候 只要烏克蘭承諾不加入北約 雙方就可進行和談

但是因為英國首相 突訪 說烏克蘭應該打下去

導致談判失敗

喔 說這段話的是人民公僕黨主席David Arahamiya

刊登在基輔郵報上

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現在這消息就是人民公僕黨 自己說出來的 英國首相叫他們打下去

ㄟㄟ 問題你是把兩個消息 組合在一個成為一個奇怪的消息 而且你有不說是兩個不同的消息 然後組合再一起 變成很奇怪假消息 說F16到烏克蘭 消息是俄羅斯的 說雷達問題的是另一邊的 你引用的是這篇

他根據的是這篇

根本就沒提到雷達 然後到你這邊就變成 F16到烏克蘭但烏克蘭專家希望改進雷達 ??? 別鬧了 我很好其你到底有沒有去查過引用消息的原始來源

打臉??? 我怎麼覺得是你被打臉 把俄羅斯文章和西方文章兩篇放一起然後自己編個故事標題??? 哪怕你分兩個標題讓讀者判斷 我都沒意見 問題你放一個標題 這純純的誤導好嗎