Re: [情報] 俄羅斯準備好與烏克蘭進行無條件談判

mithralin 發表於 2023/2/11 下午7:10:35

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(工口)時間Feb 11 19:10:35 2023推噓31 推:31 噓:0 →:18

塔斯社的英文報導原文，有人說連結點不開所以我直接原文轉錄

https://tass.com/military-operation-in-ukraine/1575101

Russia ready for talks with Ukraine, but with no preconditions, diplomat
insists

Peace talks should "be based on the existing reality," Russian Deputy ForeignMinister says

MOSCOW, February 11. /TASS/. Russia is ready to engage with Ukraine, but thereshould not be any preconditions for talks that should be based on the existingreality, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Vershinin said in an interviewwith Zvezda television.

"Yes, according to the classics, any hostilities end up in talks, and,
naturally, as we have said before, we will be ready for such talks, but only
if those are talks with no preconditions, talks that would be based on the
existing reality," the senior Russian diplomat said, according to a fragment
of the interview posted on the TV channel’s website.

However, it is not Kiev, but Washington and Brussels who make the decision ontalks with Moscow, Vershinin said. "First of all, there have been [talks]
before - you remember Minsk and you remember Istanbul. And you remember that
those were broken off by Ukraine, but you are well aware that decisions are
being made not in Kiev, decisions are being made in other capitals, primarilyin Washington and Brussels. So, inquiries should be sent there," he added.

Commenting on whether such talks could be held under the current US president,Joe Biden, Vershinin said, "This does not depend on us, we have made our
position clear, and if only Mr. Biden were cautious and wise enough, I mean
him and his entourage," he added.

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RT還把這新聞直接列在網站頭條
https://www.rt.com/russia/571324-ukraine-peace-talks-vershinin/

最原始的來源是外交部副部長接受Zvezda TV的訪談

https://m.tvzvezda.ru/news/2023211832-A9xzm.html

他的說法是俄羅斯這邊老早就做好準備談判
不過烏克蘭這邊則是由美國與北約決定是否開始談判
他也說了談判要在雙方認知現實層面上才能真正進行

結論就是俄羅斯又把美國控制烏克蘭的那個論點拿出來談...

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Meacock 02/11 19:15司機沒看到海不會罷休的，被入侵的失土本來就該取回

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p161930 02/11 19:17RT

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conqueror50702/11 19:17先把布丁吊死再來談，記得開直播

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mmnnm 02/11 19:21談屁烏克蘭一定要a進俄羅斯

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frozenmoon 02/11 19:22看來是俄國安撫人心的心戰文宣，沒有太大意義

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mithralin 02/11 19:23烏克蘭的要求一直都是恢復原有領土，不會無故A進俄

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mithralin 02/11 19:23羅斯領土讓對方有口實

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s3z15a3z15a 02/11 19:25這很簡單理解...通常只有在戰場失利侵略者才會提出

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s3z15a3z15a 02/11 19:25談判

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totenkopf00102/11 19:28信不信，布丁的戰報還是優勢

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LI40 02/11 19:28其實鵝的重點就是烏不承認鵝實際淪陷事實上割讓

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LI40 02/11 19:28就不會“開始”談的意思

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jyekid 02/11 19:29俄羅斯別作文比賽了 ...

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LI40 02/11 19:30而正是因為烏克蘭已經很早就嗆明不會放棄領土作

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LI40 02/11 19:30為前提來談判所以老鵝又一貫抹黑烏克蘭所謂的

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LI40 02/11 19:30受美國/北約控制胡扯來達到內外宣(甩鍋)目的

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bellas 02/11 19:33打人的說被打的被人控制我又亂了別人幫忙關俄p事

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rada118 02/11 19:33普丁拿命來賠吧

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bellas 02/11 19:36不趁這次把俄羅斯打到再起不能等何時

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CGT 02/11 19:38強佔別人家，被打到滿頭包再說我們要基於現有範圍談

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CGT 02/11 19:38這種強盜邏輯是有誰要跟他談

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smpian 02/11 19:43這說詞陳舊無新意

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matsuwu 02/11 19:54俄羅斯的談判就是要判我贏...

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baboosh 02/11 20:00很遺憾對付獨裁國家只能靠武力了

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skywalker10202/11 20:07看來又是老調重彈毫無意義

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sandiegopadr02/11 20:11喔喔原來都是盎格魯撒克遜人的錯呀（挖鼻孔）

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patentshit 02/11 20:26司機這個時間點同意放棄部分2014年以前領土換取和

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patentshit 02/11 20:26平，搞不好會被自己人轟了

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illegalmad 02/11 20:26俄國自己認不清現實一直在那邊嘴現實

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weimr 02/11 20:35只有2d 一直凹單，唯有下臺一途，鵝國才有可能走談

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weimr 02/11 20:35判路線。

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s33333330 02/11 20:44不把土地換人家的話這就是放屁，然後又要帶烏克蘭不

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s33333330 02/11 20:44願意談判的風向

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semicoma 02/11 20:49謝謝m大我後來用移動網路順利打開了有些isp的固定

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semicoma 02/11 20:49ip好像會被鎖之類的

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aicassia 02/11 20:52所以就是假新聞一條龍啦政府官員帶頭說謊再由官媒

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aicassia 02/11 20:52發佈接著協同單位跟側翼跟著擴散試圖引導風向

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chyx741021 02/11 20:55其實就和中國指責台灣不對話的話術一樣

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aicassia 02/11 20:56不過風向不是那麼好帶的只有中俄會自己高潮

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s33333330 02/11 20:59還有八卦版

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hsiliang 02/11 22:07這是抹黑戰術啊，老共親自教授

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hsiliang 02/11 22:09談不成就洗腦國內人民烏克蘭壞壞，談得成就反手用50

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hsiliang 02/11 22:09萬大軍打爆烏克蘭

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hsiliang 02/11 22:09普丁雙贏

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hsiliang 02/11 22:14不管怎樣普丁都是贏

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fudick 02/11 22:42一邊說談判一邊發動攻勢，誰信你啊

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leafshot 02/12 00:48談個鳥，打成這樣，總有人要吊路燈

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justinjuly 02/12 10:26真可笑的說法

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ariadne 02/12 10:37老套了啦然後自己發動總攻順便指責都是they的錯

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